VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

It seems as though the Australian market is going to pay a higher purchase price , for less features than the USA market get as standard. I understand
the need to make the new line up appealing to more than one country but it seems as though we are getting alienated at every turn. At this rate "brand loyalty" only goes so far.
Just my thoughts anyway.

Jas.

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Originally Posted by D_BLOCK

It seems as though the Australian market is going to pay a higher purchase price , for less features than the USA market get as standard. I understand
the need to make the new line up appealing to more than one country but it seems as though we are getting alienated at every turn. At this rate "brand loyalty" only goes so far.
Just my thoughts anyway.

Jas.

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"Decontenting" at it's finest :(

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Originally Posted by D_BLOCK

It seems as though the Australian market is going to pay a higher purchase price , for less features than the USA market get as standard. I understand
the need to make the new line up appealing to more than one country but it seems as though we are getting alienated at every turn. At this rate "brand loyalty" only goes so far.
Just my thoughts anyway.

Jas.

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and we touch our toes and take it.We should be rewarded for being a fiscally responsible country, yet no, everywhere you turn we get sharfted .

Want Adobe's Creative Suite 6 Master Collection?

Well then, grab a return ticket to L.A. , buy it over there and you'll still have $650.00 to spend before you reach the Australian price, wtf, no make that WTF!!!

http://www.neowin.net/news/its-cheap...6-in-australia

The aftermarket for these parts and features will be busy busy. Given that the US parts and generally cheap as chips compared to ours, fingers crossed not to hard to import and install.

i find this amusing:

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Holden has already confirmed that some (premium) Commodore variants will be available with a range of new high-tech driver aids, including Forward Collision Alert, Lane Departure Warning, Side Blind Zone Alert, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, a reversing camera, colour head-up display, push-button starting, electric parking brake and, as standard in all VF Commodores, electric power steering and an automated parking function.

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Translation: the car will feature a whole heap of warning flashing red lights and stupid 'beeping' noises which will do nothing but really annoy the crap out of you.

I already love how my VZ and previous VY VX etc made no stupid beeping noises for every reason like keys in the ignition or lights on etc unlike my misses's mazda and my e46 beemer.

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Originally Posted by Angeldust

i find this amusing:



Translation: the car will feature a whole heap of warning flashing red lights and stupid 'beeping' noises which will do nothing but really annoy the crap out of you.

I already love how my VZ and previous VY VX etc made no stupid beeping noises for every reason like keys in the ignition or lights on etc unlike my misses's mazda and my e46 beemer.

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+111111111

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Originally Posted by Jag530G

From what I've read elsewhere, the Forward Collision system on the Holden is only a half system, it displays a warning but doesn't apply the brakes, its up to the driver to do that. Consequently it's that braking component which is needed for radar/adaptive cruise and Holden doesn't actually have it.

A pity because on the times I've hired a M-B C200 CGI, I've loved the adaptive crusie control which can brake (not just coast) the car and also has a proper speed hold function, perfect for driving around the city with the menace of speed cameras.

Cheers, Matthew

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But even the E2 (and E3) came with "Extended Cruise Control" which does apply the brakes if the speed goes too far above the set point. Surely they could just tie into that system...

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Originally Posted by steve_t

But even the E2 (and E3) came with "Extended Cruise Control" which does apply the brakes if the speed goes too far above the set point. Surely they could just tie into that system...

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Here is the article I was refering to that made comment that Holden's Forward Collision Alert doesn't actually brake the car, just provides a warning.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/212797/h...els-will-park/

Bloody strange really, because as you say (I didn't know before hand) HSV have the braking capacity, so why won't it brake the car as other systems in other cars do? Admittedly Forward Collision Alert is only for low speed so doesn't have the long range radar for radar cruise but it has the rest of the system, bit annoying really...

Cheers, Matthew

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Originally Posted by Angeldust

i find this amusing:

Translation: the car will feature a whole heap of warning flashing red lights and stupid 'beeping' noises which will do nothing but really annoy the crap out of you.

I already love how my VZ and previous VY VX etc made no stupid beeping noises for every reason like keys in the ignition or lights on etc unlike my misses's mazda and my e46 beemer.

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Lets hope this doesn't turn people into lazy drivers.

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Originally Posted by Jag530G

From what I've read elsewhere, the Forward Collision system on the Holden is only a half system, it displays a warning but doesn't apply the brakes, its up to the driver to do that. Consequently it's that braking component which is needed for radar/adaptive cruise and Holden doesn't actually have it.

A pity because on the times I've hired a M-B C200 CGI, I've loved the adaptive crusie control which can brake (not just coast) the car and also has a proper speed hold function, perfect for driving around the city with the menace of speed cameras.

Cheers, Matthew

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Correct - I believe it will be the same as my Volts - Warning only - don't get excited about these two features guys - as you'll discovery they aren't that great.
Forward collision earliest I can set - pre alert I can set is 2.5sec, now provided it's tracking the car in front (small car icon lights up) it usually provides me a warning when I'm already
taking measures to avoid a collision!
Now for a bad driver this feature could make it WORSE or even cause a collision due to the distraction as the person will be looking at the instrument cluster warning - delaying vital seconds to taking immediate action. Also activates going around parked cars in suburban streets.

The lane departure relies on good lines on the road - doesn't sound thank god - if you are correctly using the indicators to change lanes.
Maybe of benefit if the driver is tired and IF it can read the painted lines at the time they start to lane drift!

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Originally Posted by Ausmartin1

The lane departure relies on good lines on the road - doesn't sound thank god - if you are correctly using the indicators to change lanes.

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This tech might get stupid people to indicate when changing lanes!!... probably not - they'll just ignore the warning as the slide across

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Originally Posted by Ghosn

Lets hope this doesn't turn people into lazy drivers.

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Bit late for that i reckon people are already too lazy.

I know most think that we are getting shafted here but you have to look at the market the chev SS is going to. theres no point putting all the good stuff in our SS as that would leave HSV with no room to move. i assume the chev ss is just one model so they neeed to load it up or it wont sell where as here we have a range of commodores to cater for so loading up a omega with all the good bits means theres no point having a calais same thing as loading up the SS there wont be a need for the HSV range. Im not saying its fair but its the way our market is right now.

I think Holden have done a great job on the VF and hope it sells well over seas as that will determine the future of an australian built commodore .

dunno if anyone has noticed this pic but looks like it says adaptive cruise on the dash display.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...psb507ce6d.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...psf04f5b57.png

I don't think Holden would be outdoing HSV by including more features in the VF.

Typically, HSV offer more in the body styling and 'go to whoa' department.

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Originally Posted by axemurderer101

dunno if anyone has noticed this pic but looks like it says adaptive cruise on the dash display.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...psb507ce6d.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...psf04f5b57.png

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Certainly a possibility. The hardware is all there already. Just a software load away from full functionality