HSV Gen- F Launched - Official Pics/Video and details (Warning: pic heavy)

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Originally Posted by jkgmh

I heard tonight that 200 deposits for vf gts have been put down so far.....not bad $20 million on the order books in a few days.....

I am watching the W427 prices over the next 6 months....

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No surprises, top end of the market has always done exceptionally well, W427 could be had for 90K, suspect a limited edition Grange, Senator, or Maloo with LSA hiding in the wings gauging from GTS response, the Big 3 are teaming up to use the 7 speed manual and 8 speed ZF, so its up to buyers whether they can wait for the discount cycle, some can as these are discretionary purchases, those wanting to be first on the road wont, they are after all fashion accessories, must be seen as trendy and having the latest and greatest to go with the gold chains and watches

For people who are putting deposits on the GTS, which wing are you going for?
I usually don't like the large wings but the one on the new GTS really seems to suit it plus differentiates it from the other models.

How's that W427 investment going? Ouch!

Cloth seats on a $60k + car??

Yeah, the base Clubby really does seem a bit of a joke for $65k. You'd need to go to R8 or SV spec to make it worth doing; which is probably the point.

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Originally Posted by mrtockley

How's that W427 investment going? Ouch!

Cloth seats on a $60k + car??

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The W427 was always shockingly over-priced, although who knows what its value will do long-term. It's a very long term thing though!
They'll have to do something to make the base Clubsport more attractive. It offers very little over an SSV/SSV Redline and is deficient compared to those cars in some areas. With the LT1 it will be more attractive. I think you'll find it won't take long for them to discount them or add a leather pack.

Sorry, I meant when the HSVs get the LT1, not sure if the Holdens will.
Rumour is sometime around 2014.

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Originally Posted by Vulture

Sorry, I meant when the HSVs get the LT1, not sure if the Holdens will.
Rumour is sometime around 2014.

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Hmm. The rumors are that it'll be going into the Commodore too

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Originally Posted by mrtockley

Hmm. The rumors are that it'll be going into the Commodore too

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Maybe the Chevy SS will get it first. It's got the LS3 now, right ?

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Originally Posted by korrupt

Maybe the Chevy SS will get it first. It's got the LS3 now, right ?

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Yeah who knows what will go in it. I'd be pissed if I bought an SSV then you few months later they drop a new engine in them with more power and better economy.

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Originally Posted by bozodos

Would still rather have a pov pack HSV than optioned up SS.

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+1 - always thought it was better to buy an SS and do it up - until I bought an HSV and understood why I was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Yeah, the base Clubby really does seem a bit of a joke for $65k. You'd need to go to R8 or SV spec to make it worth doing; which is probably the point.

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and I don't understand why HSV has so many model variations. to me they should simplify the range as Clubsport R8 with 340kW, Senator with 340kW, GTS with 430kW and Grange with 340kW. the only variations should sedan, wagon or ute, and manual or auto

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Originally Posted by Vulture

They'll have to do something to make the base Clubsport more attractive. It offers very little over an SSV/SSV Redline and is deficient compared to those cars in some areas. With the LT1 it will be more attractive. I think you'll find it won't take long for them to discount them or add a leather pack.

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The poverty pack stops complaints about entry level prices and gets bodies through the door but I don’t believe HSV is serious about their sale potential.

The whole idea is to sell the higher ticketed items where the mark-ups are much more profitable.

The poverty pack would be better if it was a whole lot lighter.

I agree the cheaper HSV doesn’t look great against the Redline SSV but in IMHO a cheaper poverty HSV is still in front of the Holden.

If you want a laugh, jump on the Chevy US website and see what $100k will get you.

According to Wheels magazine, the GTS engine oil cooler comes from the Corvette ZR1 LS9. It is an oil-coolant heat exchanger that bolts to the side of the oil pan with a couple of coolant hoses attached. Plenty of pics on the interweb if you google it.

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Not mafless :lol: