Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
I also believe it is personal preference. I like mine because under boost it drives like a stock ss. the wife drives it and has no dramas at all. Now with std ride height and stock wheels the cops dont even look twice. Yet if i stand on it at 150 it will light both tyres up. Brutal power, which some like some hate.
As far as the heat issue i have had none whatsoever, and i still drive mine hard on days well over 40 degrees. And on the dyno it makes same power run after run back to back. Where a lot of blown cars will suffer heat soak and get lower and lower.
And the end of the day get what makes ya happy
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
Power per pound of boost (intercooled): Turbo > Centrifugal > PD blower
Thermally efficient (no intercooler): Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Longevity of driveline: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Ultimate Power potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Ease of install: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Cost of Setup @ 400rwkw: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Fuel Efficiency: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Quarter Mile Potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Who says Centrifugal is the worst of these setups?
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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bozodos
I'd read it on several websites actually. Less parasitic loss from turbochargers and they act like mufflers as well to some degree.
That's all true. But for performance. Turbos will have more potential.
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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Solone
Power per pound of boost (intercooled): Turbo > Centrifugal > PD blower
Thermally efficient (no intercooler): Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Longevity of driveline: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Ultimate Power potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Ease of install: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Cost of Setup @ 400rwkw: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Fuel Efficiency: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Quarter Mile Potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Who says Centrifugal is the worst of these setups?
You have the Lag of a Turbo and the Parasitic drag of a Blower....
Really depends on the end use of the vehicle and how you like the power to be delivered, I have Data Logs of my old 3.0L Turbo car turning the 285 rears at 160 Kmh in the dry on a well surfaced test track... I spent a lot of $$$ to make it drivable ending up with DBW TRAC in the end, without it I got my ass handed to me by an old lady in a Corolla ;)
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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Solone
Longevity of driveline: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Ease of install: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Not sure about the others, but i disagree with these two. Surely PD is easier on the driveline than a turbo?
And its much easier to install a PD blower than centrifugal as you dont have to worry about piping...
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
Blowers are cooler , tuffer :wave:
Mad Max had a blower, the blind guy in Running on empty had a blower, Dominic Toretto had a blower, o.k. bad example .
Say " it's blown " and the punters are ooooer, say " it's turbo's " and you think ricer, uncool, over use of bright green and orange .
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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XUV
Blowers are cooler , tuffer :wave:
Mad Max had a blower, the blind guy in Running on empty had a blower, Dominic Toretto had a blower, o.k. bad example .
Say " it's blown " and the punters are ooooer, say " it's turbo's " and you think ricer, uncool, over use of bright green and orange .
Nuf said hahaha
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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Originally Posted by
Solone
Power per pound of boost (intercooled): Turbo > Centrifugal > PD blower
Thermally efficient (no intercooler): Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Longevity of driveline: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Ultimate Power potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Ease of install: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Cost of Setup @ 400rwkw: Centrifugal > PD Blower > Turbo
Fuel Efficiency: Centrifugal > Turbo > PD Blower
Quarter Mile Potential: Turbo > Centrifugal > PD Blower
Who says Centrifugal is the worst of these setups?
Is this validated data or your opinion or some other persons opinion?
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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XUV
Blowers are cooler , tuffer :wave:
Mad Max had a blower, the blind guy in Running on empty had a blower, Dominic Toretto had a blower, o.k. bad example .
Say " it's blown " and the punters are ooooer, say " it's turbo's " and you think ricer, uncool, over use of bright green and orange .
Haha, normally people with those sorts of blowers are the "look at me" sort of crowd. Id rather go under the radar, and watch them go "WTF" when i roll on past, lol
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
Would it have anything to do with a TT Kit being heavily marketed a few years ago but now has disappeared so we don't really hear about them anymore...?
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
I notice everyone is talking about TT kits, but no one has mentioned a big single. I tend to see more single turbo LSx's then TT set ups these days.
I wouldn't say no to either of set up myself, although i am currently looking at an intercooled centrifugal blower set up running 12psi
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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vy2ttr
Haha, normally people with those sorts of blowers are the "look at me" sort of crowd. Id rather go under the radar, and watch them go "WTF" when i roll on past, lol
The "WTF" Factor shouldn't be underestimated :D
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IJ.
The "WTF" Factor shouldn't be underestimated :D
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Nuff said???
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Beautiful Car but hardly a Sleeper :D
(yep nuff for sure)
Re: Twin turbo vs Supercharging LS motors? What's the vibe nowadays?
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itsme4g63
I doubt a supercharger, at least a roots type like the tvs would hold up for track racing for extended periods of time beyond a few hotlaps. I’d imagine it would get heatsoaked sooner or later as it does sit right on top of the engine and the heat would just keep rising to it.
You're right in some respects. Going off my experiences with track days, on a day somewhere in the 20s or lower the IATs actually remain surprisingly low, somewhere below 40degC. On a warmer day they definitely suffer from the heat, but once moving the temps will still stabilise around 50degC, which includes battling a continuously rising coolant temp. I've done a max of 10 laps straight at Barbagallo and the only heat issues I've had were coolant temps