How was that apples 4 apples?? Pommy wankas! :nutkick:
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How was that apples 4 apples?? Pommy wankas! :nutkick:
Sorry, was thinking of the Tourer/RS4 comparo where the RS was only about £3-4k more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8
Mick
looks like he cant drive manual? that GTS seems to be underperforming as well? only 4.9 sec to 100.. maybe its only running on 7 cylinders lol
In my opinion, this is like a circus act & the guy testing it is like a clown.:lol:
From his first few comments well before he even drove the GTS, it seemed obvious to me he had decided the BMW was the winner.
As others have posted, it is not a fair comparison, even the acceleration test was stupid having rolling start with a manual in second gear
(giving it a clear disadvantage) and the turbo auto just nailing it.
Has the clown never heard of a standing quarter mile on a dry drag strip?
Or... get someone like "The Stig" to compare how fast they both go around a test track, rather than one clown's view on which car drifts easier:burnout:
Something else.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUURKZrdCk
Gts has done better times than that hasn't it. Hell a stock GT does a 12.5 any day of the week
Who buys a brand new M5 or GTS to go and drift on damp roads anyway? :confused:
Exactly what is the point lol. A better thing would have been take them both to the Ring and see whats the best time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***VX*R8***
Yes for certain it has,Quote:
Originally Posted by macca_779
the reason I posted the vid was because I thought that it was a fairer & more open minded comparison
with another expensive high performance euro car.
Hell it was only one run down the strip,
as we know...two different drivers in two different lanes, tyres, driving skills....... so many variables
but at least this guy gave the car credit for being a very good quick car for the money & it was seen to give the C63 a good shake.;)
Build a Merc or BMW at the same price as the GTS and watch the Germans fail. Build a GTS with the German style tech and watch the price climb ,but I bet the Germans would have a hell of fight to beat the GTS. For all the money the Germans are worth ,their performance is pretty lousy next to a car half the price.
Power yes. But the way they use it through the rest of the drivetrain and setup show the aussie cars their arses.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvz
Very impressive for less than half the price..... Spend $10k on the GTS and then re run the testQuote:
Originally Posted by whitels1ss
I haven't read it but the same magazine according to the publicity gave the win to the GTS...or the VXR8-GTS or what ever it is called over there! I know the UK HSV/VXR owners were happy with that.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/we...-april-preview
Yes that true with respect to drive train,but what you have stated is what I was driving at ,if you were to have the tech of the Germans in the GTS ,then you would have a very capable car ,but my point is for the amount of money you pay for the Germans ,the GTS is still better bang for buck and the Germans would not be able to match that in cheaper forms ,because its been proven on many TOP GEAR and FIFTH GEAR series over the years. Our low tech engineering is still performing quite well against much higher priced European machines and the sums add up, if you put them head to head for the sake of a couple of tenth's of second in performance, its a lot of money and that just doesnt add up.I would rather spend that kind of money on additional properties and spend a little more on the GTS and flog the Germans.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca_779
Half the price it may be but apart from its performance ability, the myriad of tech, innovation and luxury in the E63 leaves the GTS looking like an old Belmont.Quote:
Originally Posted by jkgmh
Plus if you want to go your way, throw in a tune to turn up the wick on the 5.5 litre stock turbod E63 and see what happens.
I drove the AWD version while in the US last year and it almost gave me a nose bleed.
I drove the GTS earlier this year and thought it was fast.
Still even the older AMG Naturally Aspirated 6.2 litre in the early C63’s because of their more refined drivelines gives the GTS a good shake and they’re only rated at 336kw at the fly. And I know which one I would rather be in if it was traveling at over 300Km/h.
These comparisons against Euros focus mainly on performance and give very little credit to the overall package of the higher priced cars. This is where that extra money goes.
So I guess it comes down to what you want to spend your money on.
A good drivers package with lots of ability and performance potential or go to the next level of performance car innovation, then the next level and the next and so on.
You don’t even need to know what’s under the skin of the M and AMG’s to feel to difference, all you need to do is just sit in them and look at the dials on the dashboard to see chalk and cheese.
Does the GTS’s performance equal the E63 and M5, maybe just.
As a car in total is it equal to the same, don’t make me laugh.
The GTS is great value ……………………………... here.
The ZL1 Camaro at $55,355USD in the USA is also another car with great value but only at a performance level.
I’m not rubbishing the GTS, I think it’s a great car for what it is but I do believe a full comparison against the E63 and M5 would show some very glaring differences and give a better indication to where the AMG and M buyers prefer to put their money.
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