Ford XR8 limited editions

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13-02-2005, 04:41 PM
Danv8

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Originally Posted by XLR8 V8

I don't think Ford will need an aftermarket program like Boss Edit to tweak the tune :lol: Unless they forgot their password :D

:doh: :lol:
13-02-2005, 04:56 PM
Devil CV8

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Originally Posted by Animal

Wonder if it will have an 'enforcer' badge on it ? :p

and after wiping out any HSV that just so happens to be in front, the ford driver can say "the car did it" :lol:
13-02-2005, 05:51 PM
Ghia351

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Originally Posted by XLR8 V8

I don't think Ford will need an aftermarket program like Boss Edit to tweak the tune :lol: Unless they forgot their password :D

I'm sure someone wrote it on the back of their driver's licence, then again after the initial arrogance of FPV towards the F6 clutch problems you never know!
13-02-2005, 06:08 PM
V82xist

I thought all XR8s were limited...very limited :D :p
Maybe Boss edit might make a challenge out of them yet.
14-02-2005, 08:30 AM
dogbreath_48

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Originally Posted by V82xist

I thought all XR8s were limited...very limited :D :p
Maybe Boss edit might make a challenge out of them yet.

Considering the time the boss has been on the market copared to the LS1, i think there's still plenty of scope for development. Just on a side note, on the weekend i attended a dyno comp where a edited/exhausted LS1 made 225rwkw, and a GT with very similar mods made 250rwkw. I know this dyno run wasn't the be-all and end-all of the power war, but hey, it's something in the blue camp's favour! (for once)

Back on topic (sorry), a few limited editions would be awesome. Even if it was just some snazzy colours and stickers, it's better than nothing. Not like ford has had any other limited runs since the T series day's (the good ole days)

-Stu :)
14-02-2005, 01:30 PM
cosmo vyss

be careful

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Originally Posted by V82xist

I thought all XR8s were limited...very limited :D :p
Maybe Boss edit might make a challenge out of them yet.

Be Careful what you wish for you might just get it... I would love to see the ford mob get a decent edit. Hell it would make things a whole heap more interesting and fun.
jb
14-02-2005, 02:15 PM
V82xist

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Originally Posted by dogbreath_48

Considering the time the boss has been on the market copared to the LS1, i think there's still plenty of scope for development. Just on a side note, on the weekend i attended a dyno comp where a edited/exhausted LS1 made 225rwkw, and a GT with very similar mods made 250rwkw. I know this dyno run wasn't the be-all and end-all of the power war, but hey, it's something in the blue camp's favour! (for once)

Back on topic (sorry), a few limited editions would be awesome. Even if it was just some snazzy colours and stickers, it's better than nothing. Not like ford has had any other limited runs since the T series day's (the good ole days)

-Stu :)

Yes, a GT does not have the same engine as an XR8 though and i don't care about dyno numbers, I only care about track numbers. It's quite right what you have said about the time on the market and I think it's going to be good to see some ford boys who are actually willing to take us on at the track.

The other thing you should consider is the LS2 doesn't have edit yet and it will be the V8 in the VE. I doubt if a editted boss in a BA could catch an LS2 in a VZ so when the LS2 gets edit we will be in front yet again. It's a never ending cycle of Holden in front - Ford catches up - Holden lifts the bar and gets infront again.
I'm happy driving a Holden :D
14-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Brendan24688

V82xist what about tha turbo?? the phase 4 and 5 APS kits are kilers. They have got over 1000HP out of the turbo 6?
14-02-2005, 04:39 PM
FPV GTHO

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Originally Posted by V82xist

Yes, a GT does not have the same engine as an XR8 though

Theres barely anything in it, just different valve lift and a couple of small things. Hardly a different engine
14-02-2005, 04:50 PM
ssberlina

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Originally Posted by Brendan24688

V82xist what about tha turbo?? the phase 4 and 5 APS kits are kilers. They have got over 1000HP out of the turbo 6?

Fair call, but driving one would be like sitting on a handgrenade. I wouldnt expect one to out of the shop for very long due to failures of other components such as the gearboxes etc.

The ls2 is getting the power with reliability albeit not as much as your phase 4 and 5 kits but at less expense and less fuel and enough to kick the rest of the ford lineup in stock form.
14-02-2005, 07:46 PM
V82xist

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Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

Theres barely anything in it, just different valve lift and a couple of small things. Hardly a different engine

Yep your right, what I should've said is different heads, valves, Locally-supplied high-performance pistons with domed tops lift the compression ratio to 10.5:1 (XR8 = 9.5:1) on 96 RON PULP, headers, different pistons and conrods, high-performance tri-metal main and big-end bearings, balanced crankshaft, each conrod is re-engineered to match the stronger pistons and floating gudgeons and finally its all assembled by hand not machines like normal stock engines.

I would much rather have a GT than an XR8.
14-02-2005, 10:54 PM
dogbreath_48

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Originally Posted by V82xist

The other thing you should consider is the LS2 doesn't have edit yet and it will be the V8 in the VE.

Danm, didn't think of that. And i suppose alot of the know-how already gained from the LS1 will transfer straight over?

-Stu :)
15-02-2005, 08:18 AM
FPV GTHO

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Originally Posted by V82xist

Yep your right, what I should've said is different heads, valves, Locally-supplied high-performance pistons with domed tops lift the compression ratio to 10.5:1 (XR8 = 9.5:1) on 96 RON PULP, headers, different pistons and conrods, high-performance tri-metal main and big-end bearings, balanced crankshaft, each conrod is re-engineered to match the stronger pistons and floating gudgeons and finally its all assembled by hand not machines like normal stock engines.

I would much rather have a GT than an XR8.

The heads arent different, they both use the same U231 Cobra heads from the Mustang. And i dont know why your mentioning the hand assembled bit, both the 260 and 290 engines are made at FPV on the same space they used to convert the Mustangs to RHD
15-02-2005, 09:42 AM
Dacious

One thing to bear in mind with the LS2 - it's closer to the wind already tuning-wise compared to the LS1. Compression ratio 0.8 higher, revs higher, already tuned for premium fuel unlike the stock LS1 which will run on swill. I bet the reason for the increased processor power is because the tuning is more finely optimised which means less to be gained by tweaking.

Only speculation on my part, but I bet once 'LS2edit' arrives you are not going to see the spectacular gains we've seen from LS1s, especially given later LS1s and the motors in HSVs don't respond as well as the lesser-tune motors in the VT-VX. I bet it's more like 40-50hp rather than 70-80hp from pipes/CAI. LS2 will ultimately produce more, because it's bigger. But not much.
15-02-2005, 10:57 AM
FPV GTHO

Well didnt the LS1edit first come around cause Holden was detuning the engines almost 30kw when put in VT2 SS's compared to the donor Corvettes?

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