wheels-380vrx v bfxr6 v vzsv6

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Originally Posted by RICHO

The old bias chestnut again.... :rolleyes:
So, WHY is it biased?? What sort of result did you actually expect??

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Brand bashing aside, from what I have read of the article it sounds to me like a huge review of the falcon with little comments about the sv6 and 380 thrown in here and there. My personal bias aside, I honestly dont think they have given ALL the cars a fair review. The falcon is obviously their personal favourite and they have decided to glorify it while at the same time unfairly slag off the others.
This coming from a publication who has awarded ford car of the year twice in the last three years..... C'mon you've got to start thinking things!

Sorry vzsv6 I can't grasp the bias thing, particularly when it comes to wheels COTY.

Holden have 9 wins in total vs Ford's 6

Before BA Fords last win was in 1992 while Holden won the award with VN in 88, VR in 93, VT in 97 and Barina in 2001.

In recent years (big generalisations here) Ford have focused more on engineering and spent up big in the process, versus Holden's focus on maximising the life of it's existing platform with far more exterior upgrades and fewer significant engineering upgrades.

Holden's new platform, gearboxes, suspensions, body, pakaging etc comes next year and will be a big step up from a platform the can be dated back to VT with little change. Next year will be a big year for Holden and Ford will be on the back foot until 2007.

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Originally Posted by vzsv6

Brand bashing aside, from what I have read of the article it sounds to me like a huge review of the falcon with little comments about the sv6 and 380 thrown in here and there. My personal bias aside, I honestly dont think they have given ALL the cars a fair review. The falcon is obviously their personal favourite and they have decided to glorify it while at the same time unfairly slag off the others.
This coming from a publication who has awarded ford car of the year twice in the last three years..... C'mon you've got to start thinking things!

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sorry mate, you bought the wrong car :(

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Originally Posted by vzsv6

Brand bashing aside, from what I have read of the article it sounds to me like a huge review of the falcon with little comments about the sv6 and 380 thrown in here and there. My personal bias aside, I honestly dont think they have given ALL the cars a fair review. The falcon is obviously their personal favourite and they have decided to glorify it while at the same time unfairly slag off the others.
This coming from a publication who has awarded ford car of the year twice in the last three years..... C'mon you've got to start thinking things!

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Guys, I think it’s better if you wait to read the whole thing before judging the review. I’ve taken snippets from the comparo from a Ford fans point of view, and yes there is more praising the VZ that I didn’t add because it wasn’t really relevant (new model in 12 months.) Check it out in newsagents tommorow.

I think the bias claims are getting a little old too. Ford win COTY, "ah WHEELS are in bed with Ford." Holden win COTY "ah WHEELS are in bed with Holden." Just cop it on the chin and move on. The media can't afford to be biased these days or they'll be pulled to pieces and end up with no credibility at all (ie. DRIVE.)

In any case i reckon holden is on the right track in getting on level terms with the xr6 with the sv6 compared to the previous commodore S v xr6 comparo. Can only get better for the new 3.6 and 5 sp auto and new design coming up. Interesting aswell that when ford stops making mechanical difference to their base model and xr6 that holden starts with theirs.

Congrads to Ford for making a fairly impressive package.

VZ - oh well, not the wooden spoon, it is a car that is reaching the end of it's product life and the 3.6 has a bit of potential that we probably won't see until VE.

Very bad news for the 380 though - obviously probably not much of a "sports" seller, but for its first comparison to sound so sour from the exert here - a lot of jobs and cost margins are relying on the 380 selling. If it bombs then costs of the componentry in both Falcon, Commodore and Camry will go up.

Before everyone gets into an arguement with ol' VZSV6 about the Holden bashing the Australian publications are clearly endulging in, and the fair and balanced constructive criticsm being leveled at the 380, and the fanboyism being displayed regarding the Falcon, remember:
Opinions are like arseholes!

Dont feed the trolls.

I just read the review on www.carpoint.com.au and they seemed to give it glowing reports?

I had a good look at a 380 GT the other day at MMAL's Adelaide Assembly Plant......the seats are fantastic, the dash and interior in general I thought was of a high standard.

I didn't have the car running........but my impressions were that the car looked good!

Thats a good review for Ford. The BF when mated with the 6speed auto sounds like a good economical fast bit of gear! Im afraid the SV6 is a good car but just the BF has raised the bar once again.

Lol @ VZSV6. I thought he was taking a holdiday?

Interesting comments on the 380, I will take one for a drive but I just know I wont want FWD.

Cheers

Aus8

Given the hype about fuel economy at the moment, the 380's figures against a fatter car with a higher capacity/output engine must be a worry at Mitsu HQ!

Please remove

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Originally Posted by Aus8

Thats a good review for Ford. The BF when mated with the 6speed auto sounds like a good economical fast bit of gear! Im afraid the SV6 is a good car but just the BF has raised the bar once again.
Interesting comments on the 380, I will take one for a drive but I just know I wont want FWD.

Cheers

Aus8

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My thoughts exactly,you can only own the latest and greatest until a new model comes out, vzsv6 will have to buy an XR6 or wait for the VE SV6 and see if it's worth upgrading.

Seems to reinforce my current view for the last few years. Want 6cyl =Buy Falcon , Want V8 = Buy Holden . Like always iit's worth noting that its only one persons opinion - people get turned off(and turned on) many cars for the oddest reasons .

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Originally Posted by vzsv6

Just another load of garbage, which is why I don't waste my money on these crappy publications. From what I have read and judging by the language used, you'd have to be blind freddy not to realise that the author of this article, whoever it is, is severely ford biased.
Wheels and Motor have absolutely no credibility with me.

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man im glad i dont own a sv6 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: