SV6 vs SS Purchase

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Originally Posted by draculr

Well I just took an ss manual for a test drive...

All I can say is

OMG

I've never driven a v8 but I am 100% a convert after just one drive! The power and sound is just insane. Paid 4.5k extra and got it!

Only thing its a custom build which will take 6 weeks to deliver and they want me to pre trade in but they'll provide me with a demo sv6 until my car comes. Is that normal? They said they can't offer a trade for that far into the future.

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IMO.Not sure if it "normal practice"but the dealer would be concerned you may have "problems" with your trade while you are waiting,not sure about if you change your mind while waiting if you have a contract,if they have your car it could be hard to get out of the buy Especially if they wholesale it.
As long as the yard is responsible for any mechanical problems with the loan car you should be ok.It could work out better for you as it protects you against any unforseen mechanical problems or an accident with your car
Who is the dealer?
I am thinking about trading my SS as my kid wants a P plate friendly car so I will probably trade in on a SS ute and buy her a 250 GT Skyline coupe that I will drive during the week.I don't want the Skyline as my only car as I will miss the V8

Nice work on the SS mate, but if you want to leave it stock then never log on here again

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Originally Posted by draculr

Well I just took an ss manual for a test drive...

All I can say is

OMG

I've never driven a v8 but I am 100% a convert after just one drive! The power and sound is just insane. Paid 4.5k extra and got it!

Only thing its a custom build whichll take 6 weeks to deliver and they want me to pre trade in but they'll provide me with a demo sv6 until my car comes. Is that normal? They said they can't offer a trade for that far into the future.

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Well done. I am surprised at people in here rating the SV6 as smoother and still powerful. The V8 i found so so much smoother and of course power wise is just effortlessly grunty compared to the SV6 which i found almost gravelly to the ear.

Yea I definitely understand the dealers side of it. Just hope I don't end up car less at the end of this somehow with a kinda low trade value (the trade value is a bit lower and the car discount is lower too). Anyway I'm sure they're more interested in actually selling the ss than gaining a small amount by doing the dodgy on my trade.

But yea the v8 was epic even stock!!

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Originally Posted by SS317

Nice work on the SS mate, but if you want to leave it stock then never log on here again

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Have to agree here, If you keep logging on here you won't be able to control yourself. It will start of small with bolt ons and a tune than you will want more again and again and again.. :D

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Originally Posted by kevin101

Have to agree here, If you keep logging on here you won't be able to control yourself. It will start of small with bolt ons and a tune than you will want more again and again and again.. :D

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+1 :yup: :yup: :yup: :yup: :D

Well done on the purchase. A wise choice... You have not elborated on the specs... Colour, M6 or A6, SSV Redline or just SS ect...

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Originally Posted by SSVHM2.5

Well done on the purchase. A wise choice... You have not elborated on the specs... Colour, M6 or A6, SSV Redline or just SS ect...

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Thanks mate :)

Black M6 SS with leather. I don't think I'll ever be able to drive a V6 let alone a 4 cyl ever again after this car!

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Originally Posted by motorin on

IMO.Not sure if it "normal practice"but the dealer would be concerned you may have "problems" with your trade while you are waiting,not sure about if you change your mind while waiting if you have a contract,if they have your car it could be hard to get out of the buy Especially if they wholesale it.
As long as the yard is responsible for any mechanical problems with the loan car you should be ok.It could work out better for you as it protects you against any unforseen mechanical problems or an accident with your car
Who is the dealer?

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I got it from Phil at Suttons Chullora. So far I am happy with the service provided.

I think as long as they don't change the deal on you (and you don't change your mind), it should be OK. Sometimes I think they do this where the trade in price might be different by the time the new wheels arrive. For example say your car has 98,000 Km on it, and they believe if you go over 100,000 Km the trade in will be worth less. Sounds like you've done well, $4500 over an SV6 sounds a fair deal.

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Originally Posted by redvxr8clubby

I think as long as they don't change the deal on you (and you don't change your mind), it should be OK. Sometimes I think they do this where the trade in price might be different by the time the new wheels arrive. For example say your car has 98,000 Km on it, and they believe if you go over 100,000 Km the trade in will be worth less. Sounds like you've done well, $4500 over an SV6 sounds a fair deal.

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They gave me a better price on my trade than the other holden dealers so I am guessing whichever wholesaler offered them that probably would not offer the same deal if it involves a 6 week wait. I could wait a couple of weeks before giving my car to them but I may go tomorrow and do it and see what SV6 I get - it'll probably be an auto.

I know that if you purchased an sv6 over the SS you would always regret not going the V8, resale values aside. And who wants a car that every snotty nosed p plater has.

+ it will always bring a smile to your face.

7 years on, im still in an LS1 and love it every day.

This 6 weeks or however long it takes to deliver is going to be difficult. I want my V8 NOW! :P

Good call mate, good call. You won't regret it. I made the same decision five years ago and still love my SS :)

How do i find out the proper specs of the car eg. Does it have an LSD fitted, what model gearbox it is, does the manual still use the L98 engine?

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Originally Posted by draculr

How do i find out the proper specs of the car eg. Does it have an LSD fitted, what model gearbox it is, does the manual still use the L98 engine?

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Should have alll that info on the build plate. Manuals use the L98 and you will have a LSD...

Cheers

What about the manual gearbox. I cannot find info on it being updated to the tr6060 is it still the t56? On wikipedia its still listed as t56 even for my12.

Congrats, :goodjob:

Yep, the SV6 is definitely 'good enough' and it is adequate, but it has no character or attitude like a V8 does. :sleep:

The V8 is perfect if you want something extra special. :burnout:

Enjoy. :driving:

Pretty sure the series 11 has the TR6060 and LS7 clutch. Much better then the series 1 set up that I have..

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Originally Posted by draculr

How do i find out the proper specs of the car eg. Does it have an LSD fitted, what model gearbox it is, does the manual still use the L98 engine?

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All SS/SSV M6 have 3.45 LSD and I'm 99% sure you'll find they have the L77 motor which is basically the L76 with AFM deactivated and ethanol 85 capability.

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Originally Posted by Wonky

All SS/SSV M6 have 3.45 LSD and I'm 99% sure you'll find they have the L77 motor which is basically the L76 with AFM deactivated and ethanol 85 capability.

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I thought the autos had the L77 and manuals got the L98??

Nah, all S2 have L77 now. AFM is enabled on autos, disabled on manuals. See posts #3 and #6 of http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?148992.

Thanks Wonky. So no more L98... Shame

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Originally Posted by draculr

They gave me a better price on my trade than the other holden dealers so I am guessing whichever wholesaler offered them that probably would not offer the same deal if it involves a 6 week wait. I could wait a couple of weeks before giving my car to them but I may go tomorrow and do it and see what SV6 I get - it'll probably be an auto.

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The old we've got a buyer for your car. I traded my VX II Calais about 10 months ago, we've got a wholesaler interested in your car etc., after I traded I checked their website from time to time, and before long my car was advertised at the dealer where I traded it. Can't say I really understand the bullshit, makes no difference to me whether they sell it on to another dealer or wholesaler, or they sell it through their own yard. Perhaps they say that, thinking you won't bother to check out what they are selling it for (sussin out their margins etc).

I'll ask here before I ask the dealer. Is it possible for me to ask for some kind of order number for the car being built? I have never ordered a custom built car it would be nice to know some details of the build before I give my own car up for a loaner.

Yes. Ask the dealer for your order number, then ask the Holden customer service people for the expected build date etc. They were happy to do that for me five years ago :)

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Originally Posted by Marco

Yes. Ask the dealer for your order number, then ask the Holden customer service people for the expected build date etc. They were happy to do that for me five years ago :)

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Cheers! Looks like I'll get the order number next week hopefully.

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Originally Posted by csv rulz

My little brother went looking for an SV6 ute M6 for his first car and everyone he looked at had a deposit down for full asking price within 30min of him checking the car out.
P platers have gone mad for the VE SV6 utes and I really don't think you would have trouble selling it. He ended up with a 2008 SV6 ute 60th Ann with 27,000km for $26,500. An hour after he agreed to purchase the car some guy called up and offered the seller to match what ever offer my brother made plus an extra $1000.00, it was lucky the seller was a genuine person and stuck to her word.
Now consider 2008 is now 4 years old and purchase price new would have been around $30-$32k that is pretty good resale value!

However personally I couldn't live without my V8 and would be stretching the budget as much as I could to step up into an ss.

Good luck with your purchase which ever way you go!

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Well i am seriously thinking of putting my SS-V on the market. Auto ,harrop supercharger and then some......you could step into that for the right price :p

Is it worth me making a slight change to my order (I should be able to with 4 weeks left for it to be delivered I imagine..) to include the sports steering wheel? I wonder if the dealer could give a decent bit off the RRP?

If you'd done that as part of the original negotiations they possibly would have thrown it in as a deal clincher, but now they've got your order (and hence got you by the short and curlies :D) they'll probably want full list price. The only thing they may do is offer to fit it for free.

Yea unfortunately they're not budging from the rrp. I just didn't think about it when I was signing the contract I had just thrown in the spare alloy and flip key. Now I want the steering wheel and sill plates but not sure if its worth it for the price

Just buy a HSV steering wheel and put that on, much better! Congrats on purchase.

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Originally Posted by jono0309

Just buy a HSV steering wheel and put that on, much better! Congrats on purchase.

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Yea it is the HSVI steering wheel. I think I'll end up getting it, it seems to improve the look of the interior substantially.

Check prices on eBay, a set of sills is about $150

What price did they give you for the wheel?

The sills were like 120ish and the wheel about 490

It has been 6 weeks since I ordered and I finally got it!

It is amazing even stock, sounds great at anything beyond 3000rpm. Makes me feel like a hoon in fact even when driving normally.

You always know that you have 6 litres of V8 fury under the hood, ALWAYS!

Otherwise, very very smooth and solid ride on the freeway and the interior is actually a nice place to be. Good job Holden !

Congrats mate, I'll check it out tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by draculr

It has been 6 weeks since I ordered and I finally got it!

It is amazing even stock, sounds great at anything beyond 3000rpm. Makes me feel like a hoon in fact even when driving normally.

You always know that you have 6 litres of V8 fury under the hood, ALWAYS!

Otherwise, very very smooth and solid ride on the freeway and the interior is actually a nice place to be. Good job Holden !

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Originally Posted by Doco

Congrats mate, I'll check it out tomorrow!

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Indeed you will!

9 times out of 10 a test drive of a V8 usually helps people make their mind up.