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Re: Amazing gross incompetence - Zupps Mt Gravatt
Just to put this to bed, my mate sent a photo of the problem to the dealer principal (who incidentally is the person who runs the business, but doesn't necessarily own it) and received an immediate personal phone call and request to bring it straight in and they fixed it while he waited.
He took it on a 600 km trip on the weekend and all his transmission problems have magically disappeared....
Only took 3 years....Sigh...
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Great to hear mate
Sent from the middle of Farkin no-where
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Any extended warranty on the transmission for peace of mind? Hard to believe its service life hasn't been significantly reduced.
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Originally Posted by
seldo
... my mate sent a photo of the problem to the dealer principal (who incidentally is the person who runs the business, but doesn't necessarily own it)
Well now I stand well and truely corrected ... you'd know better than me mate.
It's interesting as in pretty much every other profession (besides school principals) the principal is the owner. Apparently not necessarily when it comes to car dealerships.
Good to hear he got it fixed, hopefully the business is kicking some butts for allowing this to drag on so long!
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The Dealer Principal is the holder of the Dealer's License for the Dealership.
That person does not have to own the place
Example.....
Public Company "AP Eagers" owns many dealerships all over Australia.
Each one needs a responsible license holder.
Here is a link to AP Eagers list of NEW CAR dealerships,
they also have AUCTION HOUSES, USED CAR, BUS,
NEW TRUCK and USED TRUCK
dealerships if you check out the list on the left side of the page.
http://www.apeagers.com.au/dealerships.htm
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^^^^ same as a company called AHG
Sent from the middle of Farkin no-where
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Originally Posted by
NickS
It seems even Davo can't a think of a way to talk the blame away from the dealership on this one!
Unbelievable ... :hmmm:
Maybe Davo wasn't trying to "think of a way to talk the blame away from the dealership on this one". :idea:
I'm surprised NickS. Whilst posts like yours above to be expected from a couple of others (as they did earlier in this thread), I thought you were happy to operate above this level.
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Originally Posted by
NickS
It's interesting as in pretty much every other profession (besides school principals) the principal is the owner. Apparently not necessarily when it comes to car dealerships.
Most dealerships are owned by either multiple private owners, are a publicly listed company, or have an individual owner with more than one business interest. Pretty hard for an owner (if there is even just the one) to be in multiple locations at once, I’m sure most would agree.
Dealer principles may be required to have a financial interest in the company they are employed to work for to have that role, but make no mistake, they are an “employee” that can be sacked by the owners.
This may help to dispel some of the rampant myths that fester all over internet forums as being “the truth”, for all the people that THINK that dealerships are simply a huge profit generating operation. With usually dozens of people to be paid, from the top dollar DP, through administration and/or operations manager, department managers and assistant managers, then qualified staff, all the way down to the low wage carwasher, the overheads to operate a dealership are massive.
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As i said earlier this just reinforces the idea of doing it yourself...... In the 20 plus years i have of building motors and cars there is no greater joy than watching something take shape and know you did it
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Originally Posted by
planetdavo
Most dealerships are owned by either multiple private owners, are a publicly listed company
Zupps are owned by Automotive Holdings, stock code "AHE". The other big listed Dealer group is AP Eagers, stock code "APE". Both have had pretty good runs on the market actually.
Here's a list of the dealers that A P Eagers owns (not just it's namesake businesses): http://www.apeagers.com.au/dealerships.htm
Here's a list of the dealers that Automotive Holdings Group owns (in QLD, you have to change state to see the others): http://qld.ahg.com.au/dealer-search.php
Edit: sorry partially doubling up a bit on WhiteLS1SS's post.
Cheers, Matthew
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pvk308
As i said earlier this just reinforces the idea of doing it yourself...... In the 20 plus years i have of building motors and cars there is no greater joy than watching something take shape and know you did it
That's fine if you have the time and the know how. Some of us poor punters have one or the other, or in my case, neither, so our options are limited when it comes to modding or simply servicing their car..
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Point taken HSV 590 mate..... the biggest thing i have learnt is everyone can do a simple oil change engine, gearbox, and diff and the airfilter and spark plugs are an easy change as well its not exactly rocket science mind you if your bought the car under warranty then your sort of bound by it
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pvk308
Point taken HSV 590 but everyone can do a simple oil change engine, gearbox, and diff and the airfilter and spark plugs are an easy change as well its not exactly rocket science mind you if your bought the car under warranty then your sort of bound by it
Thats true too, and as much as my mechanical abilities are some what limited, I could do the little service jobs you described, but I'm lazy so I pay someone else to, but, I then don't whinge about what I'm charged, not that the OP was either, getting a little off topic here..
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Good to hear it it all sorted now Seldo. As was said If it were mine I would have also discussed an extension to the gearbox warranty... :yup:
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planetdavo
I'm surprised NickS. Whilst posts like yours above to be expected from a couple of others (as they did earlier in this thread), I thought you were happy to operate above this level.
No ... not always, a bit of a dig never hurt anyone, don't take everything so seriously!
You should have been a school teacher mate, you have the condescending lecture thing nailed.
:stick:
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Originally Posted by
NickS
You should have been a school teacher mate, you have the condescending lecture thing nailed.
How utterly true.
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Not true! As a former high school teacher of 13 years and with my wife and some friends having 30+ years in the classroom (poor bastards :nutkick:) I can say that good teachers are never condescending!!
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Wonky
Not true! As a former high school teacher of 13 years and with my wife and some friends having 30+ years in the classroom (poor bastards :nutkick:) I can say that good teachers are never condescending!!
I agree mate, and no offense meant ... but I wasn't referring to the good teachers!
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Originally Posted by
NickS
No ... not always, a bit of a dig never hurt anyone, don't take everything so seriously!
You should have been a school teacher mate, you have the condescending lecture thing nailed.
Ahhh, I get it now. Textbook passive aggressive behaviour.
Slag someone off who was in no way involved in the current topic, then claim “I was only joking- so lighten up” when their true nature has been exposed.
Oh well, as “they” say- opinions are like @rseholes…everybody’s got one. :)
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Seldo, what was the original problem before they fit the "trans cooler". It was playing up before the "mod" wasn't it?
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Originally Posted by
planetdavo
Ahhh, I get it now. Textbook passive aggressive behaviour.
A lot would argue this type of behaviour is more your style.......
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LSavvy
A lot would argue this type of behaviour is more your style.......
:yup: ... nothing aggressive from me Davo, drop the lectures and lighten up!
:D
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Free psych assessments on an Internet forum....
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Davo replies to thread > Thread instantly derails into mud-slinging.
:( Sad panda.
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Originally Posted by
Xenon
Davo replies to thread > Thread instantly derails into mud-slinging.
:( Sad panda.
I get used to it Xenon.
Tis a funny old world the internet forum bubble. One person posts an inflammatory post and they get pats on the back, yet another person could post EXACTLY the same comment and they would have been called a troll...:jerk:
At least I wait for people to post up sh!t before telling them their post was sh!t and this is the real answer. Others appear to have rather powerful crystal balls- but it's not called trolling remember...:lol:
Anyway, I'll continue helping the good people on here. Most of you are good people. :)
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It's funny how what was considered tongue in cheek light humor a few years back has now been evolved into 'trolling'. I miss the glory days of the Internet, IRC chat rooms, forums in their infancy with a couple of dozen members, 4chan, boostcruising.............. Just kidding on BC :lol:
Anyway Davo, I don't dislike you and certainly don't aim to discredit you in any way. You have a stronger relationship to your employer and hey I defend mine too on an occasional basis. Perception is a catch 22 in type, especially when the majority fail in their use of the English language. While I don't agree with some things you post, I do enjoy the debate as its usually fairly factual argument.
That's all, lets all keep being friends :D
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^^^ too many 'normal' people started to use the internet.... the result: same as the hoon laws...ie restrictions etc