Love the bit about Flaky thin paint lol, just what you want in Australia. Will look like an early model Commodore in a couple of years with no paint left.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitels1ss
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Love the bit about Flaky thin paint lol, just what you want in Australia. Will look like an early model Commodore in a couple of years with no paint left.Quote:
Originally Posted by whitels1ss
I saw that article. Will be interesting to see how that plays out. I think someone is being stooged and I think it may be the Scottish journalist... Either way, a Tesla battery for a model 3 is about $16k AUD. I can't see why a Y would be much more. Still crazy you say? Well, it's the equivalent of a whole new engine in a petrol car. Want to price up a new engine for a BMW or Mercedes and see how it compares? I was told a $28k AUD for a 3 series. Heck, a CVT gearbox replacement on a 5 year old X-Trail through your local Nissan dealer is apparently over $12k. You need to compare apples with apples. The Tesla certainly has a much longer battery warranty than BMW has on its engines or Nissan on its gearboxes...
To be fair, we get the Chinese built Tesla's , have better paint than the US built cars Europe get from what I've seen. Especially better than the old Tesla that James May has.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
I see that the Victorian "EV Road User Tax" has been ruled "unconstitutional".
... there has been a bit of an issue with EVs since they came out and really not one spoken about until now.
I have known about this for 12 months from a contact at Pirelli in Sydney and now the Pirelli Aust Technical
Manager has outed it, EVs and tyres are not good buddies
why so?
Teslas have 700nm of torque and eat tyres, most EVs accelerate very quickly and so tyre life is short
People are trying to fit 'normal' tyres to EVs to replace the worn out originals .. not a match made in heaven
I won't post the article here as it is long, way long... but worth the read
here is the link
https://www.goauto.com.au/news/gener...-17/91841.html
When is the last time you had to do a change out the entire engine in your car? I can't say I ever have. Our scootabout 2009 118TSI Golf whilst it has had a few issues over the years is still going strong after 190k (touch wood lol). My ute still on engine from 22 years ago, still going strong. Only car that I have ever had to rebuild was my 1977 318 Charger, but I did absolutely have no mechanical sympathy for that poor thing and it only really needed new rings and bearings, so not a total engine replacement :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
Last time I was in Bob Jane they were on the phone trying to source tyres for a blokes Tesla, they were not having much luck at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty
1989 when I swapped my 138 for a 186 in my LC Torana.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
I assume because you wanted to not because you had to? A mate of mine did similar with this LJ, but he went for a 5 litre V8, what a weapon that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by jc_sv8
No the poor old 138 was nearly dead so it was a “have to” job.
For $200 the 186 was a good buy.
Fair enough, drawing a long bow comparing a second hand engine swap to having to get the batteries changed out in an electric car, surely you wont dispute that lol. I reckon you could have the motors swapped in an LC in half a day including beers for lunch yeah? And you ain't going to be picking up any good buy replacement batteries for your EV off Gumtree.Quote:
Originally Posted by jc_sv8
Agreed! $200 will get you a 10 pack of AAA at Bunnings these days! :)
I had 3 engines (replacements were under warranty) in my VX II SS before I sold it with about 75,000 KMs on it. I wasn't alone either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
Im aware Mazda has recently been swapping out engines across their range on the hush too. Not a few, big numbers I was told. So, it certainly happens.
I'll give you a hint, if Tesla was replacing batteries on mass , you would hear about it. Anything goes wrong with an electric car and everyone wants to talk about it... :yup:
Yeah well aware that early LS1's had issues for some unlucky owners, I was fortunate enough to get a bullet proof early LS1 VT2 back in the day, and now another LS1 that seems to be fine, touch wood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
Have neither seen nor heard anything about the Mazda thing, got any links to that? Would be interested as they have a pretty solid reputation for reliability as far as I know. Ours was certainly trouble free for the 7 years we owned it.
As for Tesla replacing batteries en masse, we are not talking about replacing batteries now, we are talking in a couple of years when like most batteries they slowly decline until they become unable to hold a charge. That is when the EV will become an expensive liability to the current owner and not worth shitpence. Maybe I am wrong and batteries will massively improve over the next couple of years to the point where you can charge the EV in 3 minutes and drive it 800-1000km before next charge, you know like some petrol cars :)
I was not so lucky, I had a shocking run with my VXII SS. I was ready to dump the brand altogether. Gave Holden another shot and my Monaro has been a brilliant car. However, the point is, engines do get replaced and in large numbers. It was a funny question for you to ask on an LS1 forum of all places :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
Nope, I have no links for the Mazda issue, as I said, it was on the hush apparently. I was told by a CX5 owner. There may be something online if you look.
On the cheaper EVs, yep, I am sure battery life may be an issue. However, for a Tesla, the battery is meant to last the life of the vehicle. Battery warranty is 8 years, however the expected life is meant to be as long as 37 years. Will that be true? We don't know yet.
You can fast charge a Tesla in 15 minutes for 320 kms right now, it's no where near the issue people make out. Yep, it will get better over time too, especially with solid state batteries. 1000 KMs appears to be possible. But seriously, for 95% of city / suburban people's actual use, what we have now is incredibly useable. If it wasn't, they wouldn't sell so many of these cars.
However, I'm not trying to convert anyone. People can buy what they want. I don't care, but I can only comment on things that I am aware of. Even if it's unpopular :)
I should add, I'm certainly no Tesla Fan Boi. They do many rubbish things (for example the stupid yoke steering wheel!). They're far from perfect cars and Elon Musk is a complete tool in many ways. However, I really admire what the Tesla engineers have developed and produced.
It's pretty amazing when you think about the fact that electric was nearly nowhere a decade ago. The technology is not fully developed, but it's pretty amazing already. Tesla are still so far ahead in most ways. When you experience it, you can really appreciate how much these cars offer. It's not for everyone, and it's not a cheap car.
As I always say, if you don't need a new car, keeping your old car is more environmentally friendly! Still, if anyone thinks they may like an electric car, I wouldn't hesitate to grab a test drive, they can be amazing and cost effective to own. Especially if you have home charging.
Which question was funny to ask? I was big in the LS1 scene back in the day and was a member of the NT HSV and Holden club whilst posted there. I can only go off my experience with these cars and what other owners have told me face to face, so for me other than internet noise I have never seen a troublesome LS face to face :) I am sorry about yourQuote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
experience though and glad that your Monaro has been well behaved.
As for the Mazda thing, once again I hate this he said she said rumour stuff. Bob told Pete who told Fred's dog that Mazda are replacing engines like you would not believe. Call me a sceptic, but I need some sore of proof prior to jumping up and down.
And I can see from your posts that you are no fan boy, neither am I for the other side. If these electric vehicles start to improve I may one day consider buying one as a daily commute as a city/grocery getter. I do like new tech and happily embrace it. I will however still need to have my fix of obnoxious loud and smelly ICE vehicle :)
Yup, the LS1 question. Huge numbers of these engines were replaced in the VT-VY days. I suspect that 2004 was the turning point. This is when we received the updated LS1 with more LS6 bits. It appears to be a very solid design.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
I must say, I'm very surprised that you haven't ever seen a troublesome LS1! There's even plenty of historical posts on this forum about the issues. I had my first rebuild for excessive oil usage and piston slap, plus my first replacement engine done at one dealership (Hunter Holden St Leonards) and they were doing multiple cars at the same time as mine. The second engine was fitted by another dealership (Sutton's Holden in Waitara), and they were also completing multiple engine replacements at the same time as my car. They had both been doing this for a long time. Although, Sutton's indicated to me that some people were a bit oblivious to the issues, and never requested anything be done. Many second hand buyers may never realise the work that was done.
That's fine about Mazda, understand. I trusted what this person told me, as they are a long term Mazda buyer. No reason to lie. They weren't upset, because Mazda was very accommodating, and offered a no fuss resolution of the issue. They were positive about their experience. Complete opposite of how many manufacturers react to these issues.
Oh, if it matters, I think it was the diesel rather than the petrol Mazda engines (I wasn't hanging off every word, it was just car chat, lol). I know diesels are not as reliable as the old days, but he suggested that this was quite wide spread as mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
We have had 8 petrol Mazda 3 & 6's in our family,
never had a problem with any of the engines over probably 400,000kms.
Memories: :(
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthre...highlight=Slap
I can't believe I accepted an 2001 engine in my 2002. I was young.
I just did an internet search on the Mazda thing if anyone is interested:
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/36rx5863?p=13
I see that the latest electric BMW 5 series has a gaming console inbuilt to amuse you whilst it is charging. This new generation of people must have so much spare time to chill whilst fueling their vehicle. This was on the latest edition of Throttle House. Granted, the person driving this car is probably not your average working class punter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LuECb5DRM
Like you said, Mazda seem to be looking after people which is great. If you have a defective product that is one thing, but to put your head in the sand and not rectify it is another altogether. My wifes SP25 had the dash issue where the top part melts in the sun and separates from the rest of the dash leaving a gaping hole. Mazda replaced that under good will warranty as the VIN of that vehicle qualified it. Pretty damn good if you ask me as the car was around 7 years old at that stage. The cost was around $2700 from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
Our VT2 SS had a complete 6 speed replacement at about 30k. I was deployed overseas with the ADF at the time. Glendon Motors Holden picked it up with a flat bed, gave my wife a loan car and sat it in their workshop for 3 weeks whilst a replacement box came
from Mexico. I got the invoice upon RTA and still have it, 8K for the box alone.
How could you have known, these engines were new to us then, may have just been a Friday engine as far as you knew :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
I can't believe I missed that thread....!Quote:
Originally Posted by Red CV8 R
bought a brand spankers VX SS and then, well..... that new LS1 got rebuilt-
new rings and bearings and heads (originals eroded by detonation) coz it was using 4 litres of oil every 100kms (that is ONE HUNDRED not one thousand!)
and rebuilt
a new HSPO exchange short motor complete but used the previous heads (2nd lot)
and
a full rebuild of that (yup, problem of no oil control still NOT fixed)
and
finally brand spankers new completly hand built new imported jobbie from Michigan ( I saw the crate) complete LS1 engine (not a Mexican assembly line job)
but then and also
LOTS of other misery posts here.. not only on engines, but clutches, gearboxes, diffs etc
one example
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthre...I-am-not-happy
finally had enough, when dash electrics played up, new cluster and also switch gear and then some clown
cut the corner hitting me and when I heard that VZ was about to come out, i was at the head of the queue for one of those
I had a very similar experience with my VXII SS, Smitty. The engine issues I mentioned, but I too went through 2 clutches and a diff. The second clutch replacement nearly killed me actually. I left the dealership on a Friday night and when going through an intersection, the clutch suddenly went to the floor and I nearly got hit. That was not fun getting home and then back to the dealership on the Monday.
I didn't do anything stupid in the car, it wasn't raced or anything. I had other little issues, like the seat cushion collapsing (which was replaced by one that didn't match - I should have fought that harder too). Was an all round rubbish experience with that car.
Elon Musk… “We dug our own grave with Cybertruck”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=dMWHK...ature=youtu.be
Elon Musk… The Pathological Liar…
Thunderf00t quotes below
“Roadster to no where!… Busted…”
” Elon Musk Invents ‘The Sports Car’ !!!! “
https://youtu.be/FZeB7SwmkiQ?si=ggPe_FR5tU7cKrBm
16 November 2023
“‘Massive eyesore’ – The huge EV charger in the middle of Sydney Street”
The Shop owner must be delighted and over the moon with this monstrosity of an industrial installation vastly blocking their shop front and business to the street.
What a Joke… it Completely Laughable…
https://www.2gb.com/wp-content/uploa...80-600x400.jpg
https://www.2gb.com/massive-eyesore-the-huge-ev-charger-in-the-middle-of-sydney-street/
That is a fkn joke. On a similar note I am seeing more and more car parks permanently set aside for EV so they can sit there and charge all day. There is a small carpark in Murray Bridge that has 6 EV spots and sign saying EV only and charged for free from solar panels on top of MB council building.Quote:
Originally Posted by SASLS1
17 November 2023
Electric Cars Clearly not Safe and Effective…. Ticking Time Bombs… Literally…
Don’t park your pride and joy next to an EV…
“Electric Car Explosions Worldwide”
Belgium Germany & Colorado USA…
https://youtu.be/aLtkTp4GVuE?si=Xzdbgke1JKJcbpsX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLtkTp4GVuE
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Note to Moderators, inserting you tube video from iPhone doesn’t work properly when posting from iPhone.
It inserts the link, but not the thumbnail window as it does correctly when using a PC.
I think there is a Glitch in the system???
22 November 2023
”Lawsuit blaming Tesla’s Autopilot for driver’s death can go to trial, judge rules”
Elon Musks Fake Marketing claims… of the Tesla Autopilot System are coming back to bite him……
https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...l-judge-rules/
Attachment 11100
:lol:
24 November 2023
”Melbourne hospital group bans electric-car charging in car parks…”
https://images.drive.com.au/driveau/...sbwz7qhrb8igmn
https://www.drive.com.au/news/electr...rne-hospitals/
Another feature of the Tesla, it can heat your home.
Cement Australia’s new Electric Truck goes up in Flames… in Melbourne today…
So much for being good for the environment, it’s a Toxic Time Bomb…
https://youtu.be/liPm6OKPsB0?si=jhtlgmfFXl9_fCqz
https://vasa.org.au/wp-content/uploa...Australia.jpeg
... today's headline on MSN
TESLA chargers now more expensive than petrol !
yup, public chargers for Tesla owners have never been free
and the latest news is the use of these now works out $/km
dearer than the comparative BMW330i running on petrol filling on petrol
well there ya go!