VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics - Part 3

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Originally Posted by Jamolad

So Speedy, do you have comprehensive insurance on any of your cars, or just fire and theft?

I'm assuming you don't have comp insurance, as obviously it would be a waste of money given you will never be in an accident, even one that was not of you own doing, because you always drive within the car's limits, so does everyone around you, and you drive in perfect controlled environments where nothing out of your control could ever go wrong.

I see you said you also drive 'up north' - I always wondered where Utopia was from here.

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Great post. Speedy is living in a fantasy land with his recent comments.

Anyone put in a order yet? Im hoping visit holden at some point to see what pricing / options. Im 99% set on SSV Redline in white with a spolier. But i'd like to see the Calais in flesh just to make sure. They seem fairly matched for specs. I think the SSV misses out on Heated seats and possibly rain sensing wipers? but gains larger rear tyres, breaks and some other go fast bits and launch control which i assume is manual only.

I've only ever driven auto due to my size and car availability but there may be a chance ill go manual.

My budget is around 50-55k So i guess ill see what happens!.

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Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales

Have driven hundreds, thousands?? of cars with and without airbags and with /without electronic aids, cant speak for others but I dont drive hard enough to warrant safety aids, feel just as safe in a 57 Chevy hardtop as I would in a VE.

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Wow, really? I like driving my '71 Superbug around but I definitely feel vulnerable when I do (which is why I don't take it out in peak hour, at night, or in the wet).

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Originally Posted by Vfzarb

Anyone put in a order yet? Im hoping visit holden at some point to see what pricing / options. Im 99% set on SSV Redline in white with a spolier. But i'd like to see the Calais in flesh just to make sure. They seem fairly matched for specs. I think the SSV misses out on Heated seats and possibly rain sensing wipers? but gains larger rear tyres, breaks and some other go fast bits and launch control which i assume is manual only.

I've only ever driven auto due to my size and car availability but there may be a chance ill go manual.

My budget is around 50-55k So i guess ill see what happens!.

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I have my quotes in now. Just waiting to view a Calais V in the first week of June. The dealer here is getting one in their first shipment (not my colour choice) but at least I can drive it and check it out......

Pricing I recieved tonight

Ss auto 49200
Ssv auto 53200

These are on the road first shipment from tgst dealer are all sold but will be looking the dealer principles ssv once I get home from work

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Originally Posted by Jamolad

So Speedy, do you have comprehensive insurance on any of your cars, or just fire and theft?

I'm assuming you don't have comp insurance, as obviously it would be a waste of money given you will never be in an accident, even one that was not of you own doing, because you always drive within the car's limits, so does everyone around you, and you drive in perfect controlled environments where nothing out of your control could ever go wrong.

I see you said you also drive 'up north' - I always wondered where Utopia was from here.

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Full comp on all cars, keep left down under, keep right up north, no such thing as a perfect driver, myself included, honestly never felt threatened driving to conditions, driving has an element of risk, but the risk is minimal if precautions taken

With regards to cars, cars that do not belong to me ( customers, friends, LS owners ) I treat as my own, it wouldnt be a good impression professionally to know someone is thrashing your car and driving it like a loon. Doesnt matter if the car is a $100 Kingswood or a $1 mill Enzo, RESPECT for the car and the owner is guaranteed from my perspective.

From VB-VE (and VF if I can bother going to a test drive, my Chevy rep will likely be pulling themselves over how great the SS is, why buyers want to pay 100K for a Holden when you can pay 70K and have a carbon fibre ZR1 in your driveway beats me, though if you want to pay 6 figures for a car that cant perform as well as a car that costs 30K less with a similar powertrain, go for it imho ), pre EPA, 80s, 90s, Euro, Italian, Japanese, American, for me, I get more enjoyment learning how they work and are assembled than I get from straight line speed and acceleration, never felt threatened in any car to be honest driving at day, night, wind, rain or snow, and its reflected in my insurance premiums.

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Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales

why buyers want to pay 100K for a Holden when you can pay 70K and have a carbon fibre ZR1 in your driveway beats me,

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Are you really that challenged that it beats you? I'll try and explain really simply...there is no $70K ZR1 available, we have our $100K GTS. No wonder this convo has been so difficult :duh:

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Originally Posted by vyls1wa

Pricing I recieved tonight

Ss auto 49200
Ssv auto 53200

These are on the road first shipment from tgst dealer are all sold but will be looking the dealer principles ssv once I get home from work

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Is that pricing including any options eg sunroof/audio upgrade

Since when can you pick up a ZR1 in this country for 70k.

Given thay the zr1 is in a corvette with an ls9 and the ZL1 uses the lsa neither of ehich can be had for 70k

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Originally Posted by vyls1wa

Pricing I recieved tonight

Ss auto 49200
Ssv auto 53200

These are on the road first shipment from tgst dealer are all sold but will be looking the dealer principles ssv once I get home from work

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These prices seem expensive. SS Auto RRP is $44,190 plus on roads. So they are quoting $5,000 for on road costs plus you should be able to negotiate under the RRP even with the price drop.

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Originally Posted by falcom

These prices seem expensive. SS Auto RRP is $44,190 plus on roads. So they are quoting $5,000 for on road costs plus you should be able to negotiate under the RRP even with the price drop.

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Completly agree with ya its not a price ill pay.

Bit given ive never bought a brand new car whats on roads really worth

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Originally Posted by VRIIClubby

Are you really that challenged that it beats you? I'll try and explain really simply...there is no $70K ZR1 available, we have our $100K GTS. No wonder this convo has been so difficult :duh:

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Note the statement Chevy rep

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Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales

Note the statement Chevy rep

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Speedy, I can read mate, can you?

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Originally Posted by VRIIClubby

there is no $70K ZR1 available, we have our $100K GTS. No wonder this convo has been so difficult :duh:

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'tis better to be silent and have people think your stupid, rather than opening your mouth and confirming it.

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Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales

you can pay 70K and have a carbon fibre ZR1 in your driveway

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Sweet sign me up! Who do I pay the deposit to for a ZR1 including on-roads for $70K. Does it come with a full tank of fuel? :dance:

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Originally Posted by VRIIClubby

Speedy, I can read mate, can you?



'tis better to be silent and have people think your stupid, rather than opening your mouth and confirming it.

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If you want to think of others as stupid, and shout to get your point across, youre obviously a very smart bloke, validated members be proud to earn your respect :)