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Money where your mouth is John.
As much performance as your old c63 for a 100k.
It won't go over, or at least I hope not. I do see your point though.
Now stop writing crap on here and go put a deposit down. Add the gen f to the long list of cars you have had.
OK.....Where are the performance figures for the new GTS....I can`t seem to find them anywhere....:driving:....:lmao:
High 11s stock ZL1 on comp tyres, street rubber HSV mid 12s at 116mphQuote:
Originally Posted by mustanger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanGci1ATTc
So about as quick as a stock GT. interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales
Exactly, FPV makes same power with less capacity and weight, better trans and price too, features averageQuote:
Originally Posted by macca_779
About as quick as a cammed stalled LS car
^^^...yeah , that`s all well and good but where are the official figures from HSV?????:hmmm:
GTS pricing.....I reckon around $95K + ORC.
Cheers, Pickles.
Can figures from HSV ever be taken as official? :hide:Quote:
Originally Posted by mustanger
Will have to see when the motoring press put the car through its paces, who knows what tricks and cards up sleeves they will use to get the best times
I think HSV is just referring to ZL1 times as they know it is much quicker with bigger rear tyres.
Lots of talk aboutCamaro ZL1, but the LSA engine was used before this in the Cadillac CTS-V (Coupe & Sedan), a VERY quick car, & seen by some in the U.S.A. as competition to the C63, M5 etc.
Cheers, Pickles.
Camaro used as it has same output as GTS (and drivetrain).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles
Ctsv has lower output.
With the extra engineering over a base LS car, what with all the heat exchangers, tougher diff etc, surely the new GTS will be a more reliable track car than the FPV or 'lesser' Holden/HSV?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales
Trams in FPV is brilliant. We know FPV sc gt makes more than 335. Lots more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy Gonzales
I don't know how much quicker the GTS will be. With a badged 95kw more, it would want to be quicker.
The fact that there are no official times yet is either a good thing or a bad thing.
The GTS won't be officially released until late August. Let's see what it can do.
Oh, and I am not interested in track times. Means nothing to me. I want to see 0-100, 1/4 mile, 80-120 and mph on 1/4.
I haven't tracked a car since my modified vy clubbie, but all of my cars have had many trips down the 1/4.
12.5 at 114 completely stock is what my gt ran. That's my yard stick.
I will personally be more interested in private owners times and not the magazine times.
I think all things considered the A6 GTS will see very low 12s (say 12.1 @ around 117mph) on the standard tyres. It shares the same weight as the ZL1 and also same driveline on the same platform (designed in Aus). Aerodynamic drag is said to be significantly lower in VF than both Camaro and VE. Faster times will depend on the gearbox effectively putting the power down and shifting seamlessly and quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bouka
Alex
If you are paying a 100k for a 430kw fastest and most powerful Holden ever then it goes without saying, it needs to be fast.
At 430kw it needs to be significantly faster than an advertised 335kw car.
Not to be would be robbing the customer and will be laughed at by the owners of other performance brands.
All talk and no action.
It would need to run low 12’s and a very low or sub 4 seconds to 100km/h before it would be considered fast by the many that can and would be interested in dropping 100K on a car let alone a Commodore.
Hopefully HSV have sorted the car so it can get its power to the ground and be fast and not just a high dyno figure.
A high 4 sec to 100 for 100K out of 430kw wouldn’t compute for me.
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