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Fair enough, I don't have my GTS yet so may be speaking too soon. Will let you know if I make the same mistake as drive the VZSS a lot. I switch between that and a 370z and am constantly forgetting where the switches are, but true I have never actually activated something by mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenty
It is going to be interesting because I use the handbrake all the time to hold the car at lights. A hangover from driving lots of manuals I guess. Had an SMG VW in the UK a couple of years ago and found the electric brake good except using the accelerator to switch the brake off actually damaged a driveway because the rears skidded. Might have been a throttle issue though. Too much of it! Of the 5 cars/4wds in the stable at the moment only the E series has the window switches in the centre so not that much of a change for me I hope. I reckon it will be fine in the Gen F may just take some getting used to I only do the window thing to get in and out of the work carpark and get the mail and in and out of parking stations so doubt there will be any urge to try it at 100kph.
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Originally Posted by csv rulz
Yes they are, and all hill starts I've done now the car holds itself.
But yeh automatically turns itself off with a it of pedal pressure, though it doesn't turn itself on from what I've seen. It might do if the car is locked, but on shut down no it didn't engage.
As for the issue at hand, both my wife and I have come from a vy with elec with windows and I must say I don't see this as a real issue, more of a driver being somewhat familiar with their car.
Be not different going from a VE to a different branded car with it the switch in the same spot.
So it will work as an aid to hill start in a manual?
Yes, I just put the EPB on at lights on an incline and just drive off normally. The EPB releases automatically. If very slow in the clutch release you can roll back fractionally, but only slightly. A lot easier than the old cable release park brakes. No need to think about it, just drive off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulture
I do recall reading hill start, might go back and look at the brochure... Should work the same
I was very critical of the Series 1 VE for the location of its screen and buttons as I found you needed to dip your head at times to access common functions like the stereo, SatNav, windows and AirCon.
So a big thumps up to Holden for getting these things more up to eye level and falling into line with the safety ergonomics already adopted by many other manufacturers.
I‘m also another member who regularly swaps back and forth from different cars with varying locations for the common functions and have never had a problem with changing from one to another.
I agree with what others have said, once you take the time to familiarise yourself with the vehicle, muscle memory should automatically kick in.
The Electric Handbrake is a good step in the right direction and now all you need to do is learn how to use it.
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Originally Posted by XUV
As a side note, the C63AMG still uses this amazing technology.
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What about the wrong turn down the narrow dirt road with no room for a three point turn. ;) Broke a few handbrake cables in my youth.
MY big prob with my Captiva was I kept forgeting to put my foot on the brake before I pushed the button in when I was in a hurry to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
Ok just received an email from holden about the questions I asked about the EPB. Which conforms to me that they thought about it very carefully.
Hi Robert, The electronic park brake works exactly like a manual hand brake is the way it only applies the rear brakes to hold the vehicle when parked/stopped.
Also when using the electronic park brake while driving (Dynamic back-up mode) if in an event the hydraulic brakes(foot pedal) fail it also uses the rear wheels to slow the vehicle down however unlike a manual park brake the EPB also has anti-lock capability, which ensures that the vehicle stability is maintained throughout the braking procedure.
Another perk to the electric park brake is the safety re-clamp, if for some reason the elec park brake detects vehicle roll after an initial apply, this safety back up feature comes into play. it does so by re-clamping the park brake to its maximum apply force. Hope this answers your question! Thanks, Aaron @ Holden
Sounds good ... so what is the point of this thread again ??? :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by vyls1wa
Some warning about killer park brake?
Finding out exactly how the EPB on the VF works (after 90 posts it looks like we have). Cmon Nick, you've been on here long enough to know if we deleted/locked every thread that goes off topic, or isn't critically important to everyone on here there'd only be about 4 threads a year stay open.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Would it be that many?? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
I know mate ... it's good to get some feedback on this, just seemed to be a few painting the picture that if you touch the button you'll be thrown through the windscreen!Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
I tried it Nick and my windscreen is in tact...oh and so am I :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Yep...but it wont change many, if any, of the people against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Caveat Emptor......Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS