Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
Moral of the story is keep away from dealers as most have no care for your ride!! that's the xp Ive had in the short time that have owned a motor vehicle!!
My advice pay a little more & have a specialist look after it for you!
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
I'm a little confused... Not by the situation, but why everyone is attacking the dealer and not the guy who stole the ZL1?
As far as I can tell, the thieving Pr**k stole a car, wrote it off, and is not under obligation to pay for it? OK, he got charged for being an idiot driver, but why isn't he being taken to court to pay for damages? It's not the Dealer's fault, nor the owner's, its the GUY WHO STOLE IT... Why isn't he being sued for a replacement?
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
Yes but it was apparently way too easy to steal!
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
Maybe if the Dealer hadn't stuffed the owners around and actually fixed the car promptly this situation would never have occured...
BARE minimum put the keys in the safe to cars they don't own and haven't insured on thier property over the weekends...
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Originally Posted by
IJ.
Maybe if the Dealer hadn't stuffed the owners around and actually fixed the car promptly this situation would never have occured...
BARE minimum put the keys in the safe to cars they don't own and haven't insured on thier property over the weekends...
Common sense sort of stuff really.
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Dz811
I'm a little confused... Not by the situation, but why everyone is attacking the dealer and not the guy who stole the ZL1?
As far as I can tell, the thieving Pr**k stole a car, wrote it off, and is not under obligation to pay for it? OK, he got charged for being an idiot driver, but why isn't he being taken to court to pay for damages? It's not the Dealer's fault, nor the owner's, its the GUY WHO STOLE IT... Why isn't he being sued for a replacement?
Agree, if you were the boss of dealership you would go the employee. Maybe the dealers insurance covers idiot employees......
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Originally Posted by
IJ.
Maybe if the Dealer hadn't stuffed the owners around and actually fixed the car promptly this situation would never have occured...
BARE minimum put the keys in the safe to cars they don't own and haven't insured on thier property over the weekends...
I think it's one of those "damned if you do and damned if you don't" things IJ.
Imagine if they had done that and there had been a fire.....and they couldn't evacuate the cars....
We'd be having a different bitch session about how incompetent the dealer was....
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Agree, if you were the boss of dealership you would go the employee. Maybe the dealers insurance covers idiot employees......
Doesn't work that way mate - when did you ever hear of an apprehended felon having to pay compensation?
Unfortunately, the buck stops with the insurance company, who, as you would know, are renowned for their benevolence... ...:rolleyes:...
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seldo
Doesn't work that way mate - when did you ever hear of an apprehended felon having to pay compensation?
Unfortunately, the buck stops with the insurance company, who, as you would know, are renowned for their benevolence... ...:rolleyes:...
That whole idea makes no sense... It goes against the whole justice system, why wouldn't the "apprehended felon" have to pay compensation!? HE STOLE A BLOODY CAR AND WROTE IT OFF
I'm not very well versed in these matters, so correct me if i'm wrong. I understand that the insurance company doesn't want to pay out, it's obviously not their fault or covered under their policies im sure. But surely It would be relatively easy to take the "apprehended felon" to court for stealing and crashing their car? Is that too logical or am I missing something here?
How can the thief not be held responsible?
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
I suppose the other question is, how many other cars did the guy take for a "ride", and how many did he maybe do minor damage to that the dealer denied was their doing?
If they had an idea that this was going on, but did nothing, the they'd be liable. Pure speculation of course.
Happy to here he's getting a new car though.
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Red Beard
I suppose the other question is, how many other cars did the guy take for a "ride", and how many did he maybe do minor damage to that the dealer denied was their doing?
If they had an idea that this was going on, but did nothing, the they'd be liable. Pure speculation of course.
Happy to here he's getting a new car though.
Interesting point Red.
Interestingly enough, years ago we had a very similar situation at work, although not as catastrophic.
We had a young apprentice who was caught after damaging a customer's car, and he'd been doing a similar thing - got himself a work-key cut and used to come into the shop late at night and take customers' cars for a quiet little cruise and big-note to various people that he came into contact with - hookers, petrol-station staff, passers-by while he parked and posed at the 'Cross.
He was a real Walter Mitty and used to give out huge tips and pretend that he was the owner.
He was caught after damaging a customers' Jensen Interceptor (not seriously), but had also used a couple of Lambos, an Iso and Maserati.
And what did we do?
We just had to come clean and own-up to the owners, even those who were unaware and had no damage, and make-good the damage, and check and guarantee the other cars.
The young-bloke naturally got the boot but paid some (peanuts) compensation first.
We were fortunate in that we had insurance cover by way of a "customers' goods in custody" policy, but in some situations you simply cannot do this as you don't have a legally insurable interest - for example : I can't insure your car because I have no legal title nor right to it.
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Drizt
Common sense sort of stuff really.
Not exactly.
If the dude had keys as stated, and was familiar with how the systems worked there (by working there), he obviously had easier access to everything than someone that didn't have those. Still a THIEF that STOLE the Camaro though!
End of the day we only know (mostly) what they owner of the car has said about it all. Trust every single word of that as gospel do we???
As for the insurance side of things, why do you reckon insurers have THOUSANDS of words of small print in their policies- whereas people "think" they know it all in just a few short words...? ;)
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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Dz811
I'm a little confused... Not by the situation, but why everyone is attacking the dealer and not the guy who stole the ZL1?
Because it's easier than having to think about it.
Re: Dealership Totals Customer's Camaro ZL1, Owner And Dealer At War
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planetdavo
Because it's easier than having to think about it.
Yes the Dealerships are no different to any other business really they often tend to hire pairs of hands that are very ordinary to say the least!! Makes you wonder if they didn't what the unemployment rate would actually be???