Supercharged HSV this year?....I say yes.

I hope they make one real quick because in about 5yrs from now we wont have a holden, as i am a holden supporter i hope this will not be the case. In saying that when HSV does bring it out it will go like the clappers, well thats my prediction anyway bring it on HSV.

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everyones entitled to there own opinion...despite how uneducated it may be..haha sorry. FI is the future and its here all ready...no use playin catch up all the time...jump on the band wagon

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everyones entitled to there own opinion...despite how uneducated it may be..haha sorry. FI is the future and its here all ready...no use playin catch up all the time...jump on the band wagon

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Hahaha!! Yeah, Nick! Jump aboard already would ya? :lmao:

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No need to ruin the thread guys....the question was simple...will there be a supercharged car?.....I still say yes.....and I still say this year.
Cheers, Pickles.

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I reckon you are right - my thoughts are toward the end of the year they will release a "special" supercharged model. But it will be to help clean out the last of VE stock / keep sales figures up, prior to introducing the VF. Personally I'm hoping for a VF that is ~150kg lighter than the VE, and supercharged.

Cheers
Dan

and it will be priced through the roof.

My guess would be we wont see S/C HSV with the VE, especially with VF to be introduced next year. There has already been reports of VF test mules hitting the streets (according to the Holden C.E.O Mike Devereaux) so Holden/HSV would be concentrating on getting ready for the release of the VF.
And if you go by what the motor mags are saying that the VF will have a S/C 5.5 litre who would want to buy a VF if the VE had a S/C 6.2 litre
as the saying goes "there is no replacement for displacement..."

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My guess would be we wont see S/C HSV with the VE, especially with VF to be introduced next year. There has already been reports of VF test mules hitting the streets (according to the Holden C.E.O Mike Devereaux) so Holden/HSV would be concentrating on getting ready for the release of the VF.
And if you go by what the motor mags are saying that the VF will have a S/C 5.5 litre who would want to buy a VF if the VE had a S/C 6.2 litre
as the saying goes "there is no replacement for displacement..."

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Tell that to Ford, BMW, Mercedes Benz


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My guess would be we wont see S/C HSV with the VE, especially with VF to be introduced next year. There has already been reports of VF test mules hitting the streets (according to the Holden C.E.O Mike Devereaux) so Holden/HSV would be concentrating on getting ready for the release of the VF.
And if you go by what the motor mags are saying that the VF will have a S/C 5.5 litre who would want to buy a VF if the VE had a S/C 6.2 litre
as the saying goes "there is no replacement for displacement..."

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But if the VF SC 5.5 has more power and better fuel economy due to direct injection as well as shedding many kg of lard, who would buy a SC 6.2L? Add new styling and an updated interior... How old is the VE design now?

VE has run its coarse...... they've had enough time burning the same model (06)

its time to step it up NOT make another "SERIES".......

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I am talking about going from S/C 6.2 to S/C 5.5 if they were to introduce it in VE like the thread is asking... Ford and Merc went from N/A to S/C hence the downsizing in cubes

BUT if u already own a VE 6.2 S/C, would u sell it to buy a 5.5ltr S/C ???

Ok Guy's, I have just gone from my LS3 6M Maloo to a FPV GT 335 and to be honesst if you are paying under 100K you won't get any better than this..........Honest! they are AWESOME!

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Ok Guy's, I have just gone from my LS3 6M Maloo to a FPV GT 335 and to be honesst if you are paying under 100K you won't get any better than this..........Honest! they are AWESOME!

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But will that be the case IF they release a SC VE or WHEN they release the SC VF?

You would if it was a more efficient engine like in the FPV. The Ford engine makes more power than the LSA on similar boost when tuned properly.

Yes, I have all the Tune Knowlege to go yet when she is out of warranty........Man I'm looking forward to that. at the moment these things are manic standard!!

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I am talking about going from S/C 6.2 to S/C 5.5 if they were to introduce it in VE like the thread is asking... Ford and Merc went from N/A to S/C hence the downsizing in cubes

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An easy 600rwhp, that was a record at Summernats not too many years ago.

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thats because the 5.4 was rubbish had no power above 5000 rpm

Don't know about rubbish the 315 wasn't bad!

It would be great if the VE was fitted with a S/C 6.2 to end a great model that is becoming tired,then the VF would definatly be what we are wanting,as it has to be better than that.

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You would if it was a more efficient engine like in the FPV. The Ford engine makes more power than the LSA on similar boost when tuned properly.

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Don't be concerned mate,....."IF" HSV decides to use the LSA engine, it will be absolutely "adequate"......have no worries at all about that.
Cheers, Pickles.

I agree, any blown v8 is adequate, whether it is available in a HSV for $60k is another question.

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I agree, any blown v8 is adequate, whether it is available in a HSV for $60k is another question.

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It will be PLENTY more than $60K....and it will NOT be a "mainstream" model.
Cheers, Pickles.

thinks u no more than u care to admit :)

Surely a S/C Holden would have to be priced competively against the S/C Ford, even if it is in the top spec HSV.

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Surely a S/C Holden would have to be priced competively against the S/C Ford, even if it is in the top spec HSV.

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Hardly - people are paying more to HSV for an N/A car now, why would a FI car be cheaper??? One thing HSV has in this market amongst Aussie car enthusiasts, is cachet - like it or not - they are still winning the Holden (HSV) vs Ford (FPV) battle on the popularity / sales lots.

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Hardly - people are paying more to HSV for an N/A car now, why would a FI car be cheaper??? One thing HSV has in this market amongst Aussie car enthusiasts, is cachet - like it or not - they are still winning the Holden (HSV) vs Ford (FPV) battle on the popularity / sales lots.

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Agree....HSV are still killing FPV, & by most counts, the product is still the better package than the FPV item.
IF, the S/C car appears, no, it will NOT be cheap...but hopefully, & I'd be very confident that, it will be good....VERY good.
Cheers, Pickles.

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Agree....HSV are still killing FPV, & by most counts, the product is still the better package than the FPV item.
IF, the S/C car appears, no, it will NOT be cheap...but hopefully, & I'd be very confident that, it will be good....VERY good.
Cheers, Pickles.

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So will it be a limited built type thing or will it just be so expensive that hardly anyone will be able to afford one?
You either know something or like people to think you know....which is it?

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So will it be a limited built type thing or will it just be so expensive that hardly anyone will be able to afford one?
You either know something or like people to think you know....which is it?

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Bear....I'm glad I'm so "convincing"!!!.....but mate....honestly...I know NOTHING....I ain't got no inside info at all.
What I've said here, is simply what I reckon HSV will do.....and what I reckon HSV will do, is a limited build, fairly pricey, supercharged car, before the end of this year....and I reckon they will all sell.
Cheers, Pickles.

Fair enough then. I hope your right, even though i wont be buying one as i reckon the price would be crazy.

Are we talking about the rumoured 25th anniversary model with the LSA engine ? Apparently that will drop later in the year.

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Are we talking about the rumoured 25th anniversary model with the LSA engine ? Apparently that will drop later in the year.

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All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

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All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

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Yes Macca, that pretty much sums up my "thoughts".......on all accounts.
I'd be interested to see what Davo thinks about all this....might send him a P.M.!
Cheers, Pickles.

so realisticly there wont be many of them around if this is how it pans out. I think the original post was more to do with the run of the mill HSV's not a one off special edition. I think they would be too expensive either way whether it be a 1 off or a full production of them.

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All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

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And the gnashing of teeth you hear are the W427 owners watching their resale take a dive. No, I am not a W427 hater, love the car and am glad for anyone who owns one. Just wait to 2018 when the Commodore goes out of production, then you will be in clover.

Cheers, Matthew

This went up for sale 2 weeks ago.

http://australianmusclecarsales.com....58721-hsv-w427

if hsv releases a special edition sc unit this year and people buy it...they are all suckers throwing moey away...and holden know it. I mean if they intend on releasing the VF in sc form imagine what that would do to a limited edition EXPENSIVE hsv just before launch.OMG ouch.
Its also hard to imagine holden able to afford the Rnd on a sc specd model....maybe thats what the 300mil they are after in grants at the moment??? I still find it amazing how many people all of a sudden are crying out for a sc model after years of cubes rule blah blah.
To be honest the sc VF cant come soon enough...im suprized it took holden this long considering how good and useable the xr6ts F6s and Gt335s have been. My bro has a 335 and it KILLS my R8...in allll ways except seating position and less traction(but that one ill give him with the power his makes)Like i said before...FI is the future.....get on board haha i will

Hsv haven't had to take a back seat to ford very often ,perhaps at the moment ,but i suspect not for much longer ,the supercharged HSV when it comes will be worth the wait ,and even if it does cost 100 grand ,look at what you pay for the mercs and bmws ,i think a car like HSV will give you with a blower will be unreal ,and great value for money

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Hsv haven't had to take a back seat to ford very often ,perhaps at the moment ,but i suspect not for much longer ,the supercharged HSV when it comes will be worth the wait ,and even if it does cost 100 grand ,look at what you pay for the mercs and bmws ,i think a car like HSV will give you with a blower will be unreal ,and great value for money

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So are you saying that if HSV release a supercharged car @ 100k they will be on par with Mercs etc an be better value than a 65k FPV GT?

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if hsv releases a special edition sc unit this year and people buy it...they are all suckers throwing moey away...and holden know it. I mean if they intend on releasing the VF in sc form imagine what that would do to a limited edition EXPENSIVE hsv just before launch.OMG ouch.
Its also hard to imagine holden able to afford the Rnd on a sc specd model....maybe thats what the 300mil they are after in grants at the moment??? I still find it amazing how many people all of a sudden are crying out for a sc model after years of cubes rule blah blah.
To be honest the sc VF cant come soon enough...im suprized it took holden this long considering how good and useable the xr6ts F6s and Gt335s have been. My bro has a 335 and it KILLS my R8...in allll ways except seating position and less traction(but that one ill give him with the power his makes)Like i said before...FI is the future.....get on board haha i will

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I thought you also said in another thread that 'your r8' was 'long gone' ...