HSV reluctance to provide test cars.

Norm I was told you were back posting but I didn't see this coming.

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Originally Posted by HSE2

Norm I was told you were back posting but I didn't see this coming.

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LOL Ian, atleast LS1 is a level(er) playing field where you dont have to buy your way around! Seriously though the way Ford/FPV/FPR deal with adversity or defeat is polls apart with the way Holden/HSV/HRT do...

What are you talking about? What that stunt called the black. More than a few red faces there. So much for chassis deficiency.

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Originally Posted by HSE2

What are you talking about? What that stunt called the black. More than a few red faces there. So much for chassis deficiency.

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LOL what were the lap times again?

No idea, can't remember and wasn't interested. Weren't as good as the red faces that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by HSE2

No idea, can't remember and wasn't interested. Weren't as good as the red faces that's for sure.

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Blindsided? or complacency? Either way the reaction has been funny. Personally i would have thought HSV would have stood upto the fight even if theyre out punched 2 to 1 if you include the F6...

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Originally Posted by CHEETR

from someone who sold HSV for 3years until 4months ago when i left .. i can honestly tell you HSV is struggling very bad, we went from 6months meetings to like twice a month with HSV and from selling 15 cars a month to struggling to reach 6or7..

we were making no margin out of them, some backwards to get rid of them from sitting on our floor plan.

so honestly macca, HSV may be making coin, but the dealers are not and the numbers are no longer there either.

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so in other words HSV can no longer provide press cars with a glovebox full of $100 notes as often as they used to?

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Originally Posted by YMK

so in other words HSV can no longer provide press cars with a glovebox full of $100 notes as often as they used to?

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And with the "press pack" fitted....

You really are that stupid aren't you?
The FG Coyote/F6 and E series HSV have been compared so many times when the Coyote was released it's not funny, you keep dribbling crap about HSV hiding (where's an example btw) but there is only one recent test that i know of that they were not involved, one out of about 10!

What exactly do you want them to compare? It's been done and the HSV wins! i just don't understand what you want? I think you'd be better heading on back to AFF where you can keep idolising the straight line ability of the Coyote, in fact last time the GTS ran against the GT in Motor the GTS was faster all the way to 100Km/h........ nuff said! Now go away!

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Originally Posted by Plenty

You really are that stupid aren't you?
The FG Coyote/F6 and E series HSV have been compared so many times when the Coyote was released it's not funny, you keep dribbling crap about HSV hiding (where's an example btw) but there is only one recent test that i know of that they were not involved, one out of about 10!

What exactly do you want them to compare? It's been done and the HSV wins! i just don't understand what you want? I think you'd be better heading on back to AFF where you can keep idolising the straight line ability of the Coyote, in fact last time the GTS ran against the GT in Motor the GTS was faster all the way to 100Km/h........ nuff said! Now go away!

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LOL, its hurting isnt it. Keep denying it, but you cant hide from the facts, seems HSV are trying to though.. :-)

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Originally Posted by Plenty

You really are that stupid aren't you?
The FG Coyote/F6 and E series HSV have been compared so many times when the Coyote was released it's not funny, you keep dribbling crap about HSV hiding (where's an example btw) but there is only one recent test that i know of that they were not involved, one out of about 10!

What exactly do you want them to compare? It's been done and the HSV wins! i just don't understand what you want? I think you'd be better heading on back to AFF where you can keep idolising the straight line ability of the Coyote, in fact last time the GTS ran against the GT in Motor the GTS was faster all the way to 100Km/h........ nuff said! Now go away!

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Don't bring facts into this thread, the OP just wants to troll without any facts (or he is trying to get his LS1 post count up around his 14,000-odd on FordForums).

Well why be surprised on LS1.....??
As for reliable...I have owned a E series 1 6lts Clubby and a 6.2 E series Clubbly
Both were in for repair within a month or so.
Gearbox, diff, Axles clutch ect ect ect
So that is a BS arguement saying Holden/HSV are better built.
BOTH FORD AND HOLDEN are POS when build is involved!

In saying that my next car is going to be a
335kw GT, they have great power potential and as Im not a circuit racer
they handle just fine for my needs.
I really would like to see HSV step up and provide a new engine that can compete
with the 5lt S/C. ( With the same price tag!!!!!! )

Im a holden man but id like to see hsv take on the coyote v8. I want to aee if the fpv car is all talk or can back it up.

You must observe the lack of fpv vs hsv reviews at the moment. Back when fors had the 5.4 motors it did seem that ever second month their was a shootout between them.. If holden or ford as much a changed a lightbulb on their models it was time to see who was king (hsv always won)

but I cant ignore the lack if shootouts of recent times since the release of the fpv product.

I used to love reading how the ve ss spanked the xr8 every second week.

Your level of maturity or lack thereof astounds me!:stupid: Almost all media scribes will pick the HSV over the FPV, so what exactly is meant to hurt?
I provided a great fact huh, kinda hit hard that the new Coyote got outrun to 100kmh by a piss weak N/A pushrod V8.

the old 5.4 is quicker than the ls3 because in ONE test that actually did happen. I know where you're coming from Plenty, the ls3 is very tractable, sounds great, and has plenty of performance, and the hsv is the better vehicle overall.

but that isn't the point of the thread as far as I can tell...

...the last two comparisons where fpv's new gt was compared with other performance vehicles hsv REFUSED to supply cars.
The op is not making this up, it is what the press said. The question isn't over which is or isn't better, the question is why has hsv refused.