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So you would buy what has been widely reported as the inferior overall package because it has more power ???Quote:
Originally Posted by JJW501
I suppose every VT putting out over 336kW is a better car than my C63 too ... they have to be, they have more power ... that's all that matters, isn't it ?
Will HSV release a supercharged car ? Who knows ...
Would I consider buying one ? Nope ... not even remotely interested.
You are correct, however in the car industry changes need to be made to keep customers coming back. For example if someone has a E2 GTS with a lease expiring, why would they consider a current GTS, really there is very little difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
HSV need to keep evolving their products, I think the car itself is great, but imagine it with a FPV V8 setup under the bonnet, people would get excited to change up to a new HSV, particularly the enthusiasts on here
Well were getting our asses spanked by the F6 and now the GT, but at least I'm happy knowing we have the better overall package!!
Wouldn't want to be the C63 owner who gets spanked by the GT. At least they have the badge. Not much in the way of interior quality although this was addressed in pickles model.
Lol at better overall package from the hsv boys.
HSV is better value for money than both the other V8 packages mentioned in this thread IMO :teach:
At least for those that live in the real world.
I'd love to be the C63 owner who gets spanked by the GT ... I get spanked all the time by tossers belting off the line thinking I give a shit, they look the goose when I sit there while they tear off down the road. I have nothing to prove, my car may not be the fastest thing on the road but it's fast enough. If I cared that much I'd have bought a GT-R.Quote:
Originally Posted by bouka
Do you honestly think any AMG owner gives a toss how fast any Ford goes in a straight line ???
Not much in the way of interior quality ? Are you friggen kidding me ? Now your just sounding like a jealous bogan ... :confused:
... and why would you "LOL" at a better overall package ? I'd "LOL" at the car with a million kilowatts that doesn't sell anywhere near as well as the car it supposedly "spanks".
Would you care to elaborate?
You have spent many hours on the HSV product for many years and work on some exotic machines so I am interested.
We all know it is not from a purely performance perspective.
I wouldn't argue with that ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Your last sentence sums it up ... the same reason every comparison I've read gives the nod to the GTS despite the GT's killer engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by bouka
It's the overall package, the interior quality is light years ahead of anything Holden / Ford / HSV / FPV ... not sure why you think the C63 interior quality isn't much good. The only thing that changed with Pickles' model is that the screen no longer flips up out of the dash, it's integrated into the dash now. Which I agree is an improvement, but it hardly means there's much wrong with mine. The brakes, the seats, the engine, the suspension ... it just all works so well. Clearly they are doing something right as they have put together a package that is selling extremely well. Despite the price ... which includes about $50K tax!
There's no lack of performance, the thing is a beast ... sure there are quicker cars out there but that's not why I bought it.
It's also worth noting that this is he first car I have owned in the last decade that has stayed stock for more than a month ... I've had it for 18 months now and still have zero interest in changing a thing.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with a supercharged HSV ... apologies for the wander!
Sorry Nick, my comment was aimed at Martin.
Having problems with HTC phone and posting.
Must be the bogan in me.
I have some gripes about the C-Class interior quality. MB spent much advertising money lauding their tactile feel rubbery plastic coating on the buttons and shifter surround etc. Fact is it peels, and badly in some instances, and MB will not warrant it come hell or high water - at least my dealer didnt want to know about it. That and the plastic crash pad is very susceptible to stains etc. Dont let a young tart in the car with too much make-up on, as if that gets on the dash plastic then kiss it goodbye.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Other than that the 6.2 has a few mechanical issues that I have personally comes across such as noisy/failing lifters, oil consumption, sump gasket leaks, torque converter issues, engine balance problems. Not much different to an LS3 actually....
Lets hope our new 5.5 TT CLS is better! :)
I think he was replying to Tuna. Totally agree with your comments though, I think it is just a case of little man syndrome.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
Had written something similar but am not having much success posting of this phone.
How was amg able to turn mercs version of the cruise into a eurosnobs hardon and why can't hsv/FPV do it? Am sick of hearing about the lack of funds cos the xy GT was a ball tearer and it was the early seventies. That car was far more competitive that todays hot Aussie cars.
Lol at little man syndrome. How about you post something that can add to the conversation rather than swipes on the internet.
What is this thread about ? :confused: