Refer to posts 1, 8 and 13 for pricing, detailed features listing and the "money can't buy" additional extras...Quote:
Originally Posted by sjhugh
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Refer to posts 1, 8 and 13 for pricing, detailed features listing and the "money can't buy" additional extras...Quote:
Originally Posted by sjhugh
I’ve read all that, whoopie doo, the rear brembos are the only real upgrade.
I’ll leave my comments to basically what almost everyone else on the internet is saying, just another in a long list of limited edition cars with stickers and black paint splashed on.
It would be nice if Holden did a limited edition Commodore with some real performance upgrades to separate it from the SSV pack and thank the fans who can’t afford to spend the HSV type of money.
Anyway no use me flogging a dead horse, Holden long ago stopped giving their customers what they wanted.
Not confined to just Holden fella. Most expected more from the final GT, and history is LITTERED with limited editions that didn't add vast amount of new stuff some seem to have expected. Some of these became quite desirable later in their lives, so a car can most definitely become greater than the sum of its parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by sjhugh
Yes, the internet tends to be a bit of a whinge-fest a fair bit of the time...usually from people that were never in the market for a new car at that point in time- or have no hope of affording what they are complaining about. ;)
The main focus of this car is a tie-in with Craig Lowndes, and it does a fair bit of that. It's not trying to be Craig Lowndes race car.
Anyway, everyone's expectations are different, and some are downright unrealistic with their expectations from what is an affordable, mainstream brand. Can't please everyone all of the time...
Us HSV GTS and Senator buyers would be pretty pissed to see MRC on an SS as well...
So would the R8 buyers like myself. It ain't gonna happen though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulture
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenty
The inference of the Drive story, amongst others, is that because certain things are offered on the Chevrolet SS, they will be available on some Holden's.
The rather amateurishly ignores the obvious that Chevrolet do not have a separate HSV like offering of this car in the US, so features of both Holden and HSV variants can be offered because there is simply no marketing clash.
In this country, if you want a more performance orientated Holden, you are offered a HSV.
I wouldn't have been, I wasn't a fan at all of the MRC on my E Series GTS.... rattled, was either too firm or too soft, probably led to me tiring of the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulture
I'm guessing the Gen-F MRC gear is a big improvement though.
The MRC in the GTS is brilliant. I didn't see MRC as a reason to buy the GTS over the Clubbie in the E series. I usually run in Sport mode, play with Performance and then drop back to Tour for our superb Qld back roads.
It's fantastic. One of the best features of the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by cashie
I didn't find it too bad in my E2 Senator either, was better than the suspension tune in my E1 GTS I thought.
Not much of a price premium and a special edition of a soon to be discontinued car. I would think it is quite collectable.
Not a big fan of VF's but i do like the new C.L Signature look.
This article appears to confirm paddles for the Lowndes edition via a photo.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news...=#.VCz0f_mSwnW
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Yeah I get what you’re saying, you take what we give you, not what you want.
That’s a great marketing philosophy not shared by successful companies where pleasing people is actually the priority.
And even if I am just complaining because I can’t afford a special edition Lowndes Commodore, as a Holden fan I can still dream of it actually being special.
It’s no great feat nor is it a price point destroying exercise to add a few niceties from the upper spec cars to some of the limited edition lower spec sticker packages.
Even more so when the consumer knows these add-ons are readily available in other models and would be a cheap addition for the manufacturer.
I don’t know if you understand that as it’s coming from someone who is interested in the cars and not someone who spends their day being a spin doctor defending everything about a brand.
Your Ford sticker collectable examples only outperform the run of the mill standard cars and not the early GT’s and in recent times the price of those has also bottomed out.
Collectable cars are just the survivors of an old man’s youthful imagination and the folly of the wealthy.
And for most enthusiasts who are buying cars from their past, they spend their money on models worth tens of thousands like an old HQ SS survivor and not an uber desirable $200,000 garage queen.
Anyone who buys a Lowndes as a future collectable will have to live a long life before they see the big dollar collectors starting to drool over them.
There are many other cars currently getting around that will be above them on the must have collectors list, the Lowndes type sticker cars will only ever be entry level collectables.
If Holden had for example dropped an LS3 into it then it may have elevated its future appeal because it had a significant difference to the SSV.