VE 1/4 mile times only data base. - Part 1

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Originally Posted by mentallydull

Here is a vid I put on youtube to I could show a mate my run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVv85UarO4

Redline is 6800rpm, peak torque is at about 4500rpm, trying to launch at that riding the clutch, peak power is 5800rpm i think, flat changing 3rd to 4th gear.

Let me know what you think.

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Here is a VE running an 11 at 119mph - what you should be aiming for
He is running better tyres though.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtLlm...eature=related

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Originally Posted by maka5

not really apples and apples.. but i do agree with u...

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ve ss = g6e/xr6t

Went to Willowbank last Wed night. Only the second time I've raced my car there. Here is the data from the 3 runs I did. Having trouble launching. Suggestions welcome.

Willowbank Test and Tune 7/03/2012

Temp 24
Rel Humidity 67
Abs Baro 1008

Run 1 Run 2 Run 3
60' 1.781 2.246 1.995
330 5.068 5.771 5.439
1/8 7.819 8.527 8.2
MPH 89.64 89.67 89.41
km/h 144.26 144.31 143.9
1000 10.162 10.868 10.544
1/4 12.199 12.844 12.519
MPH 106.63 114.1 114.11
Km/h 171.61 183.63 183.65

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Originally Posted by DREADVE

Hey Guys, went to the plex on wed to give the daily a run

2010 VE SS Man

HSV extractors
2nd hand old version 2 1/2 walkinshaw catback
VCM OTR intake
Oztrack ST 2 cam and Autocal remote tune

full street weight, 19in ssv rims half tank of juice spare jack etc

12.706 E/T
112.35 MPH
2.125 60"
5.548 330'
8.332 660' @142.91km/h
10.697 1000'

amb temp 30.1c
ab pressure 1006
humidity 35%
track temp 42.0c

pretty happy for a budget build

Dave

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Had a power run at WA performance the other day 400.0 rwhp just made it haha

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Originally Posted by mentallydull

Who races at WSID on a wednesday night that is fairly experienced? I'm looking for someone to possibly take my car down the strip a few times to find out why it isn't running close to 115mph considering its a cammed VE.

PS. Its manual on street tyres

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I would just get out there and practice more. Maybe even take it to a independent dyno operator for a run, just to make sure it is running how it should. Who did the work?

Ps- went 12.6@114ish in full street trim in my bolt on VE ute over 2 years ago, stock 19's and all. Practise makes perfect. :)

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Originally Posted by Muncha

went 12.6@114ish in full street trim in my bolt on VE ute over 2 years ago, stock 19's and all. Practise makes perfect. :)

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Wow!! That's outstanding for a bolt on, especially on stock tyres!! :goodjob:

Yeah but I did probably over 200 runs in 12 months, racing pretty much every Wednesday night and the odd private day. It was good fun. :)

had my first crack tonight at willowbank as well. rather disappointed in how it played out. average 60' time was 2.4 seconds. first couple of go's used hsv's 'launch control' (4.5k) setting and never got out of the hole. tried launching myself from 2'5-3k and still couldnt get the power down, with some serious axle tramp to go with it. any less then that resulted in bog. is this a common problem with the E2's? Ran the stock 20" pentagons with continentals on the rear and hsv's suspension upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Muncha

I would just get out there and practice more. Maybe even take it to a independent dyno operator for a run, just to make sure it is running how it should. Who did the work?

Ps- went 12.6@114ish in full street trim in my bolt on VE ute over 2 years ago, stock 19's and all. Practise makes perfect. :)

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thats a great time muncha. was that with the standard 3.45 diff and on a manual car? what was your 60ft like? the best time ive done is 13.0 @107 (60ft 2.05).

Im putting it back on the dyno soon, however i dont doubt the power figures as it was tuned at a very reputable tuner who i trust.

Someone with the same cam as mine, however with 3.9 diff has run an 11.7 @ 117mph on slicks (not sure whether radials or proper drag slicks) recently. he had played around with suspension setup etc though. Ive only done about 20 runs spread across the whole drag season so i dare say its mainly technique involved in the slow times. Moving to perth soon so ill buy some drag radials and have a crack next season!

First time to the Motorplex in a car tonight.......

2007 VE SS A6 stock TC and diff
1 3/4" Pacey TriY's
hiflow cats
2 1/2" pacey full system
VCM OTR
329.6RWHP
Full weight including 2 baby seats...hahaha

ET 12.99 @ 173.24kph
React 0.226
60' 2.01
660' speed 137.61kph

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Originally Posted by mentallydull

thats a great time muncha. was that with the standard 3.45 diff and on a manual car? what was your 60ft like? the best time ive done is 13.0 @107 (60ft 2.05).

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Diff was a 3.71 out of a hsv with a trutrack LSD centre, manual with a Tex z grip clutch. Suspension was as per factory ssv stuff. The 60' was around 1.81 from memory.

That's an awesome 60ft for street tyres too!! Makes me think the Trutrac really helped. :yup:

this thread has gone quiet.

bump!

Found this on Fullboost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpTdRY5WKBs

I watched that without volume but one must wonder what the point of the big cowl is without a high rise.....

I guess it looks tuff very drag spec. Mark seems to have a few fast cars popping up lately, nilooks to be the man to see with nitrous setups

VE SSV UTE mods are:
big cam, TMS otr, Full XForce exhaust, 4.11 diff gears,Th400 with 4,500stall
Tms tuned 310rwkw,
3/4 tank of 98 fuel
Slicks

last night 19-5-12 Townsville Dragway

1/4 et: 11.39
1/4 mph: 119mph
60 foot: 1.667

First time out in an auto after only picking it up 48hrs ago and driving it for the first time and also first time driving on slicks....pretty damn happy as it has more in it and I wasnt stalling it up much.
Big thanks to the guys at TMS(Townsville Mechanical Service)

Wow! Well done mate that's bloody awesome

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Originally Posted by whi739

VE SSV UTE mods are:
big cam, TMS otr, Full XForce exhaust, 4.11 diff gears,Th400 with 4,500stall
Tms tuned 310rwkw,
3/4 tank of 98 fuel
Slicks

last night 19-5-12 Townsville Dragway

1/4 et: 11.39
1/4 mph: 119mph
60 foot: 1.667

First time out in an auto after only picking it up 48hrs ago and driving it for the first time and also first time driving on slicks....pretty damn happy as it has more in it and I wasnt stalling it up much.
Big thanks to the guys at TMS(Townsville Mechanical Service)

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Ripper time. Can you msg me a rough price to convert to 4 speed.

i know it was late but i think you mean 3 speed turbo 400!!!

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Originally Posted by VoodooSS

Wow! Well done mate that's bloody awesome

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Thanks mate, was pretty surprised as i only went out there hoping to get 11.8 on my first ever outing and 11.6 was my goal for cam only setup on the ute. Cant wait to get out there and actually launch the thing and not tap the limiter on first gear

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Originally Posted by etrocket

Ripper time. Can you msg me a rough price to convert to 4 speed.

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Have sent PM, am pretty happy with the time on the first testing night

nice job what size slicks!!! t400 and 4.11s wouldn,t be too street friendly i,m guessing!!!! cheers

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Originally Posted by ittwgn

nice job what size slicks!!! t400 and 4.11s wouldn,t be too street friendly i,m guessing!!!! cheers

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Thanks mate, i have find find out full size, as i just burrowed some old used slicks to give it its first go, where 17" hoosier just will get you the rest of the details when i go have a look at them.

I thought the same thing when we where doing the conversion, but wow it surprised us all, so street friendly!!!! smooth through all shifts up and down, dont even really feel it when you change gears. the manual was abit of a pig with the big cam but the th400 has just made it as smooth if not better then my missus pulsar.
We have a 3.7 diff also but thought give the 4.11 a test as it was already in there, and seems like it goes well.

Will get a video of the driveabilty when i go out todayand post it up

no all good mate i,ve had a t400 in my vx for a while now had 3.7s now 3.45s with 27.3 inch tall tyre to pick mph!!! little different with turbo and much more power!!!!! anyway get that 60 ft into the low 1.5s and low low 11s are there!!!! cheers

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Originally Posted by whi739

Thanks mate, i have find find out full size, as i just burrowed some old used slicks to give it its first go, where 17" hoosier just will get you the rest of the details when i go have a look at them.

I thought the same thing when we where doing the conversion, but wow it surprised us all, so street friendly!!!! smooth through all shifts up and down, dont even really feel it when you change gears. the manual was abit of a pig with the big cam but the th400 has just made it as smooth if not better then my missus pulsar.
We have a 3.7 diff also but thought give the 4.11 a test as it was already in there, and seems like it goes well.

Will get a video of the driveabilty when i go out todayand post it up

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Why is the T400 sooo much better than the A6 when it comes to drag racing? A6s also have good stall converters now and the ratios are nice and short ... strange.

Alex

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Originally Posted by ittwgn

no all good mate i,ve had a t400 in my vx for a while now had 3.7s now 3.45s with 27.3 inch tall tyre to pick mph!!! little different with turbo and much more power!!!!! anyway get that 60 ft into the low 1.5s and low low 11s are there!!!! cheers

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thanks mate, yh cant wait to actually get the launches right :)

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Originally Posted by Alex(AUS)

Why is the T400 sooo much better than the A6 when it comes to drag racing? A6s also have good stall converters now and the ratios are nice and short ... strange.

Alex

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The reason i went the th400 is one that it was cheaper and easier to do as my car was already manual and turbo 400's are a mechanical gearbox so no electronics just full manual shift. The A6 i would need all the wiring redone to the auto wiring and also i have seen to many bad reports with built a6's and didnt want to risk it, yes there are ones that are goin well but thought i would just go with the th400 and not risk the chance of wasting all that money.

Also with drag racing i think the th400 works well is because it is manually shifted and works great where as the A6 is electronically shifter and have to rely on the electronics to be perfect

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Originally Posted by whi739

VE SSV UTE mods are:
big cam, TMS otr, Full XForce exhaust, 4.11 diff gears,Th400 with 4,500stall
Tms tuned 310rwkw,
3/4 tank of 98 fuel
Slicks

last night 19-5-12 Townsville Dragway

1/4 et: 11.39
1/4 mph: 119mph
60 foot: 1.667

First time out in an auto after only picking it up 48hrs ago and driving it for the first time and also first time driving on slicks....pretty damn happy as it has more in it and I wasnt stalling it up much.
Big thanks to the guys at TMS(Townsville Mechanical Service)

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Well went to the last drag event in Townsville on saturday and got 2 runs for the night due to it being packed. First run was 11.34@119
And Second run was a new PB and also got my first ever 1.5 60ft :)

1/4 et: 11.281
1/4 mph: 119mph
60 foot: 1.594

Anyone had a run at Kwinana since Whoop Ass Wednesday has been back?

Yes I've been down there, however they are still using the long 60' for Wednesday nights.

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Originally Posted by dyno junkie

Yes I've been down there, however they are still using the long 60' for Wednesday nights.

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hey champ what do you mean by long 60' ??

There is two sets of start lines.
The one closest to the tree is the correct one and is 60' to the tree.
There is also another start line that is about a metre before the correct start line, this is the one that is used on Wednesday nights usually.

Ive been told all andra tracks use a false startline soposidly to protect the real startline from damage.

okay i see what you mean so that isnt goin to effect 60' times ?? I'm assuming they just bring all the sensors back a meter

No, the tree stays in the same place but the start line is further back.
ie: the 60' is longer and so is the track longer than 1,320'.

Most ive spoken to say it adds between 1 and 1.5 tenths of a second,bummer if u consistantly run 12.0 to 12.10 and are trying to crack an 11.

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Originally Posted by sportwagon

Most ive spoken to say it adds between 1 and 1.5 tenths of a second,bummer if u consistantly run 12.0 to 12.10 and are trying to crack an 11.

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I think you are a bit off the mark there. If you are running 180kmh you will cross the line doing 50 metres a second. Therefore for every metre the track is longer will add 0.02 of a second. Not significant at this level of racing.

My best so far is 13.4 @105 MPH

Ve Calais-V sportwagon L98 A6 2.9open diff
VCM Maf OTR intake
Pacemaker Tri-y extractors standard hi-flowed cats and Xforce twin mandrel bent 2.5 stainless catback

Got the bug now, that was my first night at the drags at willowbank, i'm itching for a 12 sec pass now

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Originally Posted by mentallydull

I think you are a bit off the mark there. If you are running 180kmh you will cross the line doing 50 metres a second. Therefore for every metre the track is longer will add 0.02 of a second. Not significant at this level of racing.

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I got my info from a couple of old drag racers who run in superstreet and also with us on a wednesday, 1 of them has a car that runs 10.9 in superstreet but they said they cant break sub 11 on a wednsesday as the extra 1.5 meters goes on ur 60 foot times just what ive been told never tested it myself.

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Originally Posted by Fence_sitter

My best so far is 13.4 @105 MPH

Ve Calais-V sportwagon L98 A6 2.9open diff
VCM Maf OTR intake
Pacemaker Tri-y extractors standard hi-flowed cats and Xforce twin mandrel bent 2.5 stainless catback

Got the bug now, that was my first night at the drags at willowbank, i'm itching for a 12 sec pass now

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Do you have a tune for your bolt ons? If not, a tune and some 20psi rear tyres might get you what your after. Otherwise a 3.27 LSD diff will get you there.

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Originally Posted by sportwagon

Most ive spoken to say it adds between 1 and 1.5 tenths of a second,bummer if u consistantly run 12.0 to 12.10 and are trying to crack an 11.

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like repeated 12.004 passes .. Im so close to an 11.xx on street tyres....