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Sorry, can't see it. I'm assuming its a dyno graph.....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Its actually starting to grow on me a little......some more mods 154rwkw, E85, coilovers (to properly sort the wayward handling), exhaust, wheels etc. Not too bad!
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I actually drive this one a bit versus leaving it parked. Thats says something (not much) but it does deliver a bit of buzz
All that I've read talks about "fun" handling, rather than fastest lap generating "stunning" handling.
"Fun" is of course quite a variable, depending on the person you ask...;)
The other thing often read is that Toyota designed it from the outset to be played with heavily by tuners, rather than attempting to release the ultimate product for the retail consumer.
I suppose it depends on ones definition of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
For journos driving around at low speed its fun to get the back a little loose and have the thing slide - thats for sure.
For someone actually trying to use it on the track the nature of the car to have the back overtake the front in one sudden switch at 130km/h plus when the things loaded up can be a little on the spooky side. It can be dialled out, but its certainly a trap for the unwary...and there have been a few binned due to that trait
Thats not just my opinion, some of the better Tarmac drivers in Australia, the likes of Glenney, Crocker etc. all seem to share the same opinion
Or maybe.....Im just getting old :)
Merry Xmas Davo!
I went for a test drive in an auto GT two weeks ago (it was the only one the dealership had) and i didn't mind it.
I didn't give it a thrashing as it was on public roads and i am just an average driver even though the salesman was suggesting i push it a little harder.
The two observations are that it didn't seem to accelerate any faster or handle substantially better than the focus i have , but the auto transmission didn't annoy me like the in the Focus does (it's shuddering again occasional)
They certainly aint real quick in a straight line stock! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A^K^T
They ain't quick modified either!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Depends if there are any corners....then much quicker than a Falc :)
(But what isnt?)
A lada. A great wall. A ssang yong. Shall I go on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Please don't.
Every time is see one of these I think "Finally all the hairdressers can buy a new car!" Their Celicas must be getting pretty long in the tooth by now.
Just as high powered cars in the hands of low quality drivers have been a trap for the unwary for decades hey...Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Yes, your definition of "fun" is perhaps rather different to most other peoples, but at the end of the day, Toyota and Subaru have produced a very affordable rear wheel drive coupe in an era that is almost devoid of affordable rear wheel drive coupes. Since most buyers will be doing low speed stuff like these journo's, maybe that's why people say the makers nailed it! The track stuff is when tuners are meant to get involved. :yup:
Half glass full time Martin...:)
The hairdressers still had other front wheel drive coupe options.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
Mostly from Hyundai in recent years.
Its a pretty average hairdresser that spends $35K on a new car....(maybe the apprentice or trainee?)Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
The good ones are $200K+ a year folk, so maybe time to recalibrate the expectation meter some when it comes to hair decorating folk C4B :)
Absolutely Davo. Its the first time in a long time that the Aussie public arent being ripped blind by the manufacturers on a decent new car. Kudos for Toybaru being brave enough to look into the future on that one :cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
Your intimate knowledge of Hairdressers is both impressive and utterly disturbing all at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Still doesn't make it any less of a Haidresser Car.
That's very true... They've got some competition now!Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
That is very true, and not bad professional knowledge from someone with very little hair to be dressed....Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
So that begs the question, 'What is worse? The hairdressers car? or The computer nerds car?'
Many interesting scenarios :)
I've found it depends on the nerd, I know one with a completely stock accord euro and on the other end one with a ssv wagon cammed and a turbo satria gti track/motorkhana car
Can't really speak from either perspective. Not much hair left either and the only computer nerds I know drive Suzuki Swifts and Hyundai i35's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
My Hairdresser drives a Subaru...
Mine drives a Subaru as well, she is my wife. Thankfully I still give her heaps of work to do at home as well. Would hate to be bald, would suck arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by C4B
My hairdresser had an xr6t and traded it on a maloo, go figure
I had the option of buying an 86 instead of my CV8 monaro... Chose the Monaro due to the obvious reasons, aswell as in a few years time the 86 will just be another import on the roads mostly driven by P platers/ douchey guys/ hairdressers. IMO there arn't many skylines/silvias/wrx's on the roads that make me think "wow, that guy is cool!" or "That's a cool car"
~Chubby
(This post is only a cynical opinion and is not intended to offend any other forum member)
Certainly not a Hairdresser’s car in the vain of old Celica towards end of it’s life also known as “all show and no go”.
It’s designed from scratch as a drivers car at a great price. It’s the most highly acclaimed this year.
Comparing V8 Holdens with 86 is not comparing apples with apples.
Haha. I'm a bit of a computer nerd. But also a tradie with a modded hilux and modded ve senator. Don't tar me with the same brush.
You rate blokes by what car they drive? That is odd in itself lolQuote:
Originally Posted by AngryChubby
It takes all kinds. Live and let live :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
Not everyone is into cars ... I have a client that earns 7 figures a year, he just bought a demo CX5 for < $40K. Another client that has a private airstrip on his property outside of Noosa, a hanger with 5 planes in it and he drives an 11 year old POS Hi-Lux.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
Can't always judge income / wealth by the car someone drives.
Back to the car ... I've read a few comments bagging the factory tyres, what's your opinion of them Martin? Crap or not as bad as the journos are making them out to be?
They are horseshit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickS
The tyre or the car!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
My nephew recently purchased an 86 and the tyres are pretty ordinary. Sits nice and flat around a tight turn, with the grip on the edge at moderate speed. That being said the chassis balance makes it very controllable and fun to drive, so sliding the rear tyres is not a major problem. Straight line power (lack of) off the mark does not warrant sticky hoops either. Tyres/rims are pretty well Camry spec I reckon.
Tyres (and rim or rim size i believe) are off a Prius so you were closeQuote:
Originally Posted by RAWKUS
Prius it is! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by boggers007
I need say no more!Quote:
Originally Posted by boggers007
Sad as it is, 86 will probably still outlive Falcon............ :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by bouka
That doesn't put me off that much , i can always hop on my Hyabussa if i feel the need for speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
It isn't the most practical car in the world , you won't fit a set of golf clubs in the boot and if you wanted to carry passengers in the back seat you would need to cut their legs off first.
But i ain't into golf and the only passenger i carry who would need to be in the back seat is my four legend friend (she's just a little too big to travel comfortably on the front seat)
I don't give a rat's that some see it as a hair dressers car.
I do see it as a car that would make the 1/2 hour to 45 minute commute to and from work something to look forward to (as my LC GTR Torana did)rather than something that was to be endured.
The two reasons i didn't put my name down for one is that i like to think about major purchases and there is (from what the salesman told me) up to an 18 month waiting list..
Gee, wish all my fishing expeditions were this successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin_D
I'm a big fan Skinny man!
Very well priced, rear drive fun. It's great to see so many buying them as well. And many of the ones I have seen are modified in some way (usually rims and tyres).
I think it illustrates very well just many enthusiasts there are outside the Neanderthal rear drive v8 scene.
Wanker! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bouka
Hopefully the scene never dies, and if 86 sparks just a few more twinges of interest in cars, then its done its job.Quote:
I think it illustrates very well just many enthusiasts there are outside the Neanderthal rear drive v8 scene.
i've put my name down for one, just have to wait for the mother in law to be finished with hers and i'll take it off her hands - might be a few years wait though for her to find something else she likes to replace it with :)