ZB Commodore sales

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Originally Posted by A^K^T

Saw a third ZB today , was at a car rental place.
By comparison i have seen about 7 Teslas , two at the local IGA.

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Funny that ... yes I'm seeing a number of Tesla's S's too in Victoria.
Guess some people who can afford it have some taste for acceleration.
Agree with others comments the ZB should never have been called a Commodore.
This was an attempt by GM over stupid/neive Australians.
Australians are smarter than expected by GM.

The issue is if your going to play in the larger medium sized front wheel drive market, you better have more than a mediocre product when driven and compared to the competition.
Even the local RACV magazine review left the same impression.
That is sad for Holden but even worse for us fans who predicted this and now experience the reality.

Has anyone driven the Kia Stinger vs ZB in a side by side comparison?
I saw one on the road and they look OK.

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Originally Posted by jc_sv8

Has anyone driven the Kia Stinger vs ZB in a side by side comparison?
I saw one on the road and they look OK.

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Yes, latest motor magazine has them head to head.

Car advice has done a few from memory, they also have a Stinger long term for themselves and it seems as time goes by the shine has worn off it sighting poor build quality and some drivetrain gremlins.

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Originally Posted by CLUBRED

Car advice has done a few from memory, they also have a Stinger long term for themselves and it seems as time goes by the shine has worn off it sighting poor build quality and some drivetrain gremlins.

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Yes, from what I've heard, if ya want outright speed, then the Stinger's on top, but the ZB is better everywhere else, particularly the seats & the interior.
Pickles.

Thanks, I was more interested in how they are going to stand up to Aussie conditions. Will be interesting to review in 6 months or so.
Most journo's take them around the block and write their review...

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Originally Posted by Pickles

Yes, from what I've heard, if ya want outright speed, then the Stinger's on top, but the ZB is better everywhere else, particularly the seats & the interior.
Pickles.

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Martin.... if you are talking ZB VXR seats, they are terrible! :cussing:
the most uncomfortable unyielding seat i have ever had the misfortune to sit on.
A concrete block or park bench provides a better place to sit, even the Sparco
seat in my race car is 200% better than the VXRs

the standard ZB RSV or LT pew is much nicer on ya bottie :)

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Originally Posted by jc_sv8

Thanks, I was more interested in how they are going to stand up to Aussie conditions. Will be interesting to review in 6 months or so.
Most journo's take them around the block and write their review...

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Caradvice actually purchased their own stinger when they first come out. Its the one they use in the reviews and it also goes on a lot of car events.
They would be the best ones to talk tk about how the car has held up over a period of time and what the ownership experiance is like.

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Originally Posted by Smitty

Martin.... if you are talking ZB VXR seats, they are terrible! :cussing:
the most uncomfortable unyielding seat i have ever had the misfortune to sit on.
A concrete block or park bench provides a better place to sit, even the Sparco
seat in my race car is 200% better than the VXRs

the standard ZB RSV or LT pew is much nicer on ya bottie :)

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No worries, I will try them all & come back with my thoughts.
I'm not a fan of super hard seats myself, had a Focus RS,..had Recaros which were too radical for me,..same with AMGA45,....very "rally like" seats, not suitable for everyday/ getting in & out of car use,....and one of the reasons why Karen bought an RS3!
Believe it or not, one of the comfiest seats we've ever sat in were in our LandRover Defender,.....could drive all day in the Defender & never get tired!.....Great vehicle to drive too,....with only 90KW!
Pickles.

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Originally Posted by csv rulz

Caradvice actually purchased their own stinger when they first come out. Its the one they use in the reviews and it also goes on a lot of car events.
They would be the best ones to talk tk about how the car has held up over a period of time and what the ownership experiance is like.

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Be sure to read the comments, the CA guys regularly get involved, so there's some candid comments about the car there.

https://www.caradvice.com.au/626270/...rending&slot=1

.. throw this in here as a bit of a comment

have not seen a ZB as a taxi yet but followed a Kia Stinger taxi
on the way home from the airport tonite. Interesting that ...

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Originally Posted by Smitty

.. throw this in here as a bit of a comment

have not seen a ZB as a taxi yet but followed a Kia Stinger taxi
on the way home from the airport tonite. Interesting that ...

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I can't imagine ever buying any Kia as I will never forget or forgive the terrible problems I have seen with their earlier efforts.

I actually think that the Hyundai Genesis looks like a better built car.

Pity they don't sell the V8 Genesis in Australia.

My old man said that about Japanese cars when I was at school. Give them some time. I was going to take a Stinger for a drive to see if it is as good and as bad as the web seems to think.

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Originally Posted by whitels1ss

I can't imagine ever buying any Kia as I will never forget or forgive the terrible problems I have seen with their earlier efforts.

I actually think that the Hyundai Genesis looks like a better built car.

Pity they don't sell the V8 Genesis in Australia.

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A friend of mine has a Genesis, LOVES it, best car He's ever had he reckons, previously He drove a V8 Statesman. I tried to get him into a Caprice V, which He did drive, but He preferred the Genesis.
Pickles.

May have pissed off a salesman today.

While I was showing my girlfriend the ZB range, he came over and asked if we needed a hand. "All good, mate. Just trying to hold back the sick." Probably wasn't the response he was expecting.

Btw, the lady thought it looked like a Hyundai i45 but agreed that it has the wrong badge on the back.

Mick