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Hi, Does anyone know where to get these walkinshaw HSV E2 dual 4 inch tips or some made by others that look similar seperately as i already have a exhaust system, just want these tips as i think they look great.
Obviously I have already asked walkinshaw and you have to buy a $2500 catback to get these tips.
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I believe Total Tooling make them for WP. They also make HSV's and Autotechnique's, among others.
Good luck though. TT wont supply them as they make them to contract, WP wont sell them because you are trying to avoid buying their system but want their look, so that pretty much leaves either copies appearing, or taking them off a used exhaust.
shurely they cant be that hard to fabricate if no one will sell you any, all ya need is someone with good welding skills and the right pipes to weld.
pft, and walkinshaw just use cheap x-force systems, bolt those tips on and call it their own
but i do agree that they look good
Confirmed fact, or the latest urban myth?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomholzy
i thought that HM made the exhaust systems for WP , happy to be corrected if im wrong, but im pretty sure they dont use x-forceQuote:
Originally Posted by tomholzy
That's the word I've heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by spank
If thats the case, I would guess HM wont mind selling exhaust tips, with out the engravements of course..... not like its copyright.......
i believe that HM supply the exhausts and then WP fit the tips in house
HM don't make the tips.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1BEAST2NV
TT by contract may not be permitted to sell the exact same item less engraving.
very very nice set of tips
I'm sure HM make the exhausts for walkinshaw, but I didn't know Total Tooling make the tips.Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
I will try them but I have got a feeling they wont sell them even if they make them without the engraving.
this may sound odd but i think im right, if your clubsport has the original hsv exhaust sytem then buy the WP rear mufflers for the car and the tips will come with them, the car will sound better and the mufflers should bolt up to the rest of the factory system, ive mixed and matched on my WP caprice that had thier exhaust system on it with hsv exhaust bits and pieces and it all bolts up on that car.
I have an Xforce 3 inch exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by spank
Maybe worth atry though, but they would probably charge at least $1000 for the rear mufflers and tips.
I think the quads looks a lot better than the standard HSV tips on the E2. Much tougher look, surely you can find them somewhere mate or fabricate copies.
I believe APS are going to be releasing 4inch tips soon for the E2's, they're a forum sponcer so you could pm them.
There's pics of them in this thread http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=136429
I was after the Walky tips for my E2 and was told very politely no. Twice! Buy a system and they come free! I am not able to change my system and as far as I know the 3" Walky system doesn't pass noise requirements. The 2.5" system does but it uses the E1 mufflers which like the factory muffler the outlets don't line up neatly with the centre of the opening so you have a choice of changing to a muffler that does or making up some transition pieces. I am in the process of the latter. I have made up the two S bends and have ordered 3.5" tips to suit. I am happy to pm the drawings to anyone wanting to do this for themselves. The tips need to be cut down but it can be done. I will post some pictures when I have finished (which may be a while off given how busy life is at the moment). If you don't have a MIG and grinders you might be able to persuade an exhaust shop to do it but it might be expensive to pay for their time.
Another member has 4" tips (with different mufflers) I tried those but they looked too big to me. Nice but not subtle which is what I want.
Confirmed fact in Brisbane (Brendale) Walkinshaw Performance, I called them inquiring about exhausts not too long ago and they said they use X-Force...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomholzy
That makes two confirmed suppliers! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomholzy
Found an old article that stated HM were their supplier, and that it's not an off the shelf product, but made to their requirements.
I wonder why they have truckloads of X-Force gear here in brisbane if they dont use it....Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
The Walkinshaw tips look too big IMO. However, the tips are obviously milled from solid, and to have a one off set made would be hell expensive. Although, if buying a WP exhaust was the only way to get them other than having them custom made, if the WP exhaust is infact a x-force item, I'd opt to have them custom made... From all the x-force systems I've seen/heard/fitted, I couldnt say i've been impressed.
If someone wanted to have them custom made, or a group of interested parties wanted them, I'd be happy to 3D model them up to provide to the manufacturer for CNC milling. Just a thought ;)
HM were the original supplier. From what I understand, xforce are the new suppiers
HM have manufactured the Walkinshaw Performance Exhaust systems for many years now.
HM have worked together with Walkinshaw Performance to create the best performing exhaust system available in the After Market and will continue to work with Walkinshaw to maintain their place at the top of the Performance Exhaust industry.
HM, fair enough. As Northy said though, last time I was at PT, there were tonnes of Xforce systems. And I remember someone else telling me XForce were the new supplier.
I understand what you are saying Davo. To a point. WP dont mind selling you bonnet scoops, headrests, mats, Carbon Fibre - all the visual stuff. So yeah maybe I do want their look. But what happens if I hate the note their Walkinshaw Exhaust makes (no offence to the manufacturer). I chose my F1 from Mr Muffler because I liked the note. But that means I cant have the tips. I have a sneaking suspicion they would sell them hand over fist if we could buy them. I'd ring Shaun at PT right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
As HM have said,they certainly continue to manufacture and supply our exhaust and headers.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonners
WP QLD and most other distributors still work on other vehicles that are not Walkinshaw specific jobs,and they sell and fit a range of other products like X force exhausts.
Also Total Tooling have never manufactured WP exhaust tips. They are manufactured in S.A. and offshore now.
WP01
Have we got any verification as to whether the WP tips are 3.5" or 4" ID?
Have started modelling them up to have made myself (in batches) as there seems to be a market for them... :P
Are you talking the about E2 or E1 ones mate. I have WP stuf fon my SSV and would love to finish that part off. I have tips similar to the KPM ones at present but would prefer the WP look to go with the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSV475
Can do both, E1 WP tips look pretty basic IMO, I've modelled up the E2 ones with a 4" ID but can easily change once I have verification of what size they are... I've got KPM ones on my ute and rather them personally, but these are definately a tough tip!Quote:
Originally Posted by bonners
SSV475Quote:
Originally Posted by SSV475
I would advise before you proceed with the above you have a look to confirm that these products are not covered by design registrations or a patent pending, I would be surprised if these weren't covered, it would be a shame if someone invested alot of time and money into a product that you can not sell.
HM
My understanding is that they are: 3 inch inlet and 4 inch outlet.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSV475
You really need 4 inch external as the cutoun in the bar is around 130mm high from memory.
Been after these babies for some time now... Walkinshaw arn't interested at all in just selling the tips (can't justify handing over 2500 for tips?!?!?!)... shame cause the definately are missing out on sales is guess .. if anyone has got any similar designs that are forsale please post...
Something I've been working on... Designed to be CNC milled from aluminium, with twin 76.5mm inlets to slip over 3" pipes, as to be made from ally and cant weld, will have flush finishing grub screws for securing, however should be a tight fit over pipes.
PM Me for details....
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I agree and see my last post. No problems in selling all the other 'dress up' stuff so why not these.Quote:
Originally Posted by OFDHZY
Thanks for clarifying the various aspects of this subject wp01 and HM.Quote:
Originally Posted by wp01
Pretty common scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonners
When buying (for example) their bonnet scoop they don't link it with a compulsary bonnet and so forth, so you already know what you can and can't buy.
WP (and others) know that a fair percentage of the market are happy to pay half the price for some exhaust, then try to fit these tips on it, making it look like it's a WP exhaust to the casual observer. They spent the money developing them, so if you want them, WP will throw in a "free" exhaust with your 2K plus tips... ;)
so, it's unacceptable to think you could buy these to complete the WP look...
I'm promoting their business and their product by putting them on. Is it not flattery for someone to want them so bad. putting them on my exhaust which had just as much development and cost as much as the WP one.
.....and the 2500 for tips and free exhaust.... Joke is getting old
Bonners, pm me mate ;)
Thats a cop out, they are quite happy to sell all the rest of their gear to the highest bidder, what makes the exhaust tips so special.....Quote:
Originally Posted by planetdavo
well going buy this thread they are nice ;) even id like a setQuote:
Originally Posted by Northy
Finally, some tips that arent made off-shore! Keep the dollar in the country... go the Tassy milled ones!!
JK