Now Toyota is out. 2500 jobs gone.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/to...210-32cl3.html
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Now Toyota is out. 2500 jobs gone.
http://www.theage.com.au/business/to...210-32cl3.html
ALP supported the industry and we still lost Ford and Mitsubishi.Quote:
Unions laid the blame for the announcement on Prime Minister Tony Abbott, saying the closure came as a result of the Coalition ‘‘refusing to support investment in Australia’’.
Everyone ceasing in an election year, should be fun to see union propaganda.
That said...There doesn't appear to be too much confidence here in Aust. atm as far as the Car industry is concerned?? Or is it just a coincidence!Quote:
Originally Posted by CLUBRED
Well the general public could not care less about Australian car manufacturing or the over perked employees whether this is true or not.
They are rejoicing looking forward to a level import field.
Mean while I feel sad in my heart once again watching another demise.
Amazing what Australians ' once upon a time' were able to achieve.
The adds on this site viewing - Great wall ad. Just says it all.
Cheep Cheep is all that matters for people who in general even struggle with putting air in their tyres.
Welcome to a whole world of imported crap - Our current purchases and tight wallets have dictated it be so...
MAJOR reason given by Toyota,....and I quote, ..."High Cost of manufacturing in Australia",.........which has been the common theme for ALL industries that have closed & gone overseas.
"High Cost"?.....Whose fault is that?
Pickles.
Martin, everyone knows that was John Howard's fault!! Whoever he was!! :teach:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles
I'm going to buy a Volvo. :lmao:
Its not just the major manufacturers closing that will kill everything its all the feeder companies that supply components that will be hardest hit. All the AC and electrics...this will be massive and I feel for anyone in the car industry at the moment. The writing is on the wall and most will have to be made redundant to collect on all their years of service, Truly a dark dark day in Australia's history...
very true..... engineering, chemical/petro-chemical and plastics industries are already under pressure with Ford and Holden goingQuote:
Originally Posted by MYVYSS
now with Toyota going and Holden shutting all engineering and development activity from the end of 2016 (dunno if thats public knowledge or not... but I have been told that by some GMHolden engineers)
there will be little manufacturing in SA and Victoria... except maybe for the defence industry and that unfortunately is subject to the whims of our federal pollies! Other large manufacturers like Bluescope
and Orica have already announced closure plans ... or implemented them :(
Hello my "adversary". No surely, even you, wouldn't believe that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Micks
Best Regards,Martin.
Yes mate hows Tony doing it for us BP "The Silent Achiever"??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles
Mate, He's going very well, unchallenged, and as he promised, he has, "STOPPED THE BOATS".
Pickles.
Terrible news, but not unexpected considering they were the only ones left.
Nissan and Mitsubishi found out long ago car manufacturing is not viable here so I guess it is a credit to the others they stuck it out this long.
The vehicle landscape in Oz is truly changing which is a real shame because we make good cars here.
You gotta laught though at the unions and opposition pollies blaming the libs for the closures. Most of the pain and losses were experienced under previous labor governments.
Come on guys, FFS stop bringing politics into everything:biggun:
Time for this country to regain common sense by 1. Looking after our back yard first ,stop giving aid to countries who clearly dont earn it (Indonesia) 2. Lefty pie in sky thinkers (Sarah Hanson Young ) grow up and realise the world is not a golden book story,Australians need to be looked after not illegal boat people. 3 Union grubs ,you have wrecked this country with greed and unrealistic working conditions placed on employers,an honest days work for and honest days pay,thats how we compete with other manufacturing nations ,not by whinging about hours worked or weekends or taking advantage of sick leave ,but actually working and producing to benefit the nation. 4.Increase tariffs on foreign goods and decrease tax or have no GST on Australian manufatured products,so as to boost our manufaturing sector.
Shoulda taxed the shite outta the imports and used that to subsidise the local made cars and materials. Our market is just that fragmented now it makes no sense to build them here without the volume of sales.
Is it too late to pull out my " THE END IS NIGH " sign?
Union propoganda? Because the people actually out of work don't really matter - they are just union propaganda?
I would suggest back in the days of "an honest days work" no executive got anything like the multiples of pay and boneses so many feel entiteld to now - irrespective of the companies actual performance.
The whole country is living in fairy land mate, when it comes to an honest days pay.
What profession are you in? Going by your comments you should have been a CEO of a major Car manufacturer!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jackvz
Ed, Martin can't help himself! Fancy mentioning "Stopping the Boats" in a Jap car industry thread ffs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by whitels1ss
....... +1Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles
C'mon mate, "Politics"?....YOU were the one that mentioned John Howard & Tony Abbott?Quote:
Originally Posted by Micks
Martin.
Reckon I had every right to bring up JWH!! Not so much his illegitimate son though! :limpy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pickles
The 2500 job losses will be a piss in the ocean compared to all the
assoc' allied industries shutting up too!!!
Will make it difficult to obtain aftermarket parts in general down the track for our existing rides or projects!!
Aust. will certainly be the @sshole of the World!
Three reasons this has happened
Product price being too high
Greedy Stealers maximizing every bit of profit for themselves
Greedy unions over paying employees
The country cannot continue like this as our financial system cannot support it.
Simple!!
its a pretty sad state of affairs that no cars will be produced in Oz, but unfortunately it is the way the world is going. it's much cheaper to go overseas.
i feel for all the employee's of the car manufacturers and the components manufacturers, going to be a lot of people losing their jobs.
im with you mateQuote:
Originally Posted by jackvz
every union worker in australia wants more money then whinge when the company they work for can't afford to keep going if i was in the manufacturing game i wouldn't touch australia with a forty foot pole any more
im very sad to admit
and yes the gov should cut out the foreign aid that does nothing to help anyone only the scammers on the receiving end
Yes int. what our Govt will do to manipulate the unemployment figures under their watch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stomper
Keep it on topic. If this degenerates into the usual political pissing match between the same people it'll be gone.
I think a big mistake was that the car companies allowed a 2 brand race series.
Had they kept a multi car brand format and homologation racing, then the cars would have developed better.
Mick if I were that postion it would be Holden of course.:yahoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micks
I said it in another thread before however the old saying was "Win on Sunday sell on Monday". Doesn't really have any meaning anymore. It is a shame that Australia has lost yet another manufacturer worse yet the last. I feel for the workers involved no matter what the politics of wages and conditions may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by XUV
However the decisions that have led to this point were made long ago and we are now reaping the rewards. It is difficult for our manufactures to play on a level field when only one government is trying to play more hands of market economics. I was just at the 12 hour and it was great to watch all the different classes circulating. Bring on the homologated racing I say.
ALP would of tried harder to find a way to keep Holden here. It appeared Holden was trying to find away. Ford didn't ask for help to stay longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLUBRED
The Federal government needs to improve on communicating it's strategy to replace the hole left by the car industry.
it's a crying shame, and the seeds were sown 3 governments ago.
Neither major party has done anything effective to look after locally made products, and the Trans Pacific Partnership is only going to make things worse. I for one hope that SPC Ardmona don't follow suit.
I don't think there were clear lines of communication between GM and Holden, GM had been cleared of its bail out and they were spending billions on plants and plant upgrades in other countries, clearly they didn't need the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
there's talks that import tariffs will be cut in the next 18 months, so it'll be an election thing and just as the locals cease manufacturing.
Logical idea as there's nothing to protect .
man, we're all fked.. i don't even work anywhere near car manufactunring but we have just been told this week :
too expensive, and better off being outsourced...
I can't stand some in the media that say Aust. shouldn't subsidies industry! Us Aussies only contribute a miniscule amount to prop up any industry period!! It's far better to than the alternative!Quote:
Originally Posted by bozodos
And then there were none...
I seem to remember a common quote from the past that said "greed is good".
Well, this is what happens when people only focus on what's in it FOR THEMSELVES. Eventually, it will go wrong. Maybe not for yourself, but your friends and your kids might be in trouble.
As long as this country is expensive enough for people to BRAG about earning stupid money for doing up a bolt, or doing a few spot welds, or holding up a sign on a road, or whatever, we will never, ever learn from this last year (over last few years really)...
When we see asian manufacturing dominance, they'll just double the price of everything (regardless of quality) and we'll be forced to pay bacause we don't have a local industry.