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Building an LS1 Powered Widebody Porsche 911
So for anyone interested Here is my build im starting.
Youtube Series is here Subscribe!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l0u9ATOfq4
I will be needing a lot of help from the members here as a lot of things on this car will probably have only been done one or twice from info I can find,
Now before I Start let me start off by saying the car was purchased with no interior, motor or box. The plan was to be a budget build and building what I wanted not what you think it should be. My previous car was a Mercedes E55 the last of the Supercharged V8s. I have always loved the sound and feel of a V8 and on the same note I have always loved the timeless look of the 911 so I shopped around looking for a project as I never had plans of a doing a resto.
Behold my 76 911 that came with a 993 widebody. So I jumped in the car and drove to sydney and pick up my ride.
So the plan is to give it a GT2/RSR look but run a turbo LS1. The transaxle is a custom built one for me from a company in Sydney.
This will be purely home built and on a budget. You are all welcome to offer ideas and help on anything you think me assist. I'm open to keeping this group build I'm just not interested in any of your purist opinions. I was thinking of making Youtube vlogs nothing high quality but more of update evey few days rather than one a week or month. Whats everyones thoughts.
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So lets get started.
So I have started on fitting my GT2 flares and working on making my roll cage. I picked up a cage from an alfa 105 which is almost the same size. with a few easy mods it should fit quite easily as the main hoop is the same size.
So first job is to remove the remaining interior and clear away some of the dynamat for the mounting plates for the roll cage. I tell ya this **** was a pain to remove Super sticky and sharp like a torn coke can. But im glad the car had it as the LS1 will be loud!!
This was the cage I picked up
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and starting to strip interior and dynamat
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now for a quick test fit.
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Ill try weld the 2 "X" braces in this weekend.
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Now the fan part. I was not going to waste money with a ****ty 915 so instead went with a custom box for a lot les money and the internals are all brand new. The box is a STI 5 speed with the rear drive unit removed and shortened I went with a the oversize ring and pinion and and double syncros on 1,2,3. Single syncros for the rest. it comes in shorter than a 901 box and will allow my to have the engine a little higher and forward more.
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this is compared to a 901
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now the output for porsche is bottom the ooutput for subaru is top so im goung to run an exposed shifter link sorta like a spyker
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Now the above pics show the fin in a 912 the 911 has a slighty bigger tunnel so the fit should be very easy. Ill mount my shifter higher and and cut down the throw.
I just picked up my gated shifter for that chink sound lol
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Today ill be making me seat adaptor plaes and finishing off my cage and starting on my strut brace
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More goodies arrived today. My subaru to LS adaptor plate. Custom fly wheel and i finished welding up my cage.
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Been a slow week. Got the cage finished and the car stripped and all glass out. I have started the long task of sanding!
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Awesome project, will be watching with interest. :yup:
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This appeals on so many levels.
Thoughts on scoobydoo box, have you changed any of the glass internals out to cope with turbo lsjuan?
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well it was that or the old porsche 915 box which is shit even brand new. So my suby box has an oversized ring and pinion that cut in reverse. and brand new gearset, double syncros on 1,2,3 and a torsen LSD, Hopefully it holds up lol
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Have subscribed to this thread, just what this place needs at the moment!! Welcome & :goodjob:
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I did a tuning trip to the Philippines in may & tuned a RWB 993 with an ls3 in it. It still had the stock box in it. It went ****ing quick, pretty light weight sadly the roads/traffic sucked so bad over there.
http://custompinoyrides.com/2013/11/...la-connection/
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MrRPJ
well it was that or the old porsche 915 box which is shit even brand new. So my suby box has an oversized ring and pinion that cut in reverse. and brand new gearset, double syncros on 1,2,3 and a torsen LSD, Hopefully it holds up lol
Time will tell :lol:
Be good when this is done, import & non-import running 993 are drug money nowadays. Actually any 911 with some years on it are.
Did you have the lsjuan laying around to use and get it on the road, did you look at a 6+ litre?
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Great build! I've been following a few of these conversions on ls1tech recently
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Tre-Cool
Dude believe it or not RWB victoria was the whole reason for my build. I seen a few Pics on the net then found out it was LS and was like im doing that! Minus the 20k body kit. I decided to run the GT2 clubsport widebody. One question they never show the cooling set up what did it run and where?
Zorro they guy who made my box makes them for a few different applications but it was one of thing for both of us so he knows there is a chance it might let go but we will cross that bridge later i have a feeling drive shafts will let go before the box does. and yeah anything airccoled body and a coupe are all 60k plus nowadays 993 body starts at 100k crazy hey!
Actually the engine is the only thing I dont have yet lol as they are cheap and easily found. the 6l is a little to pricey for me at the moment. As I sold my AMG just to buy the car and didnt have much left over.
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Tre Cool RWB victoria is the whole reason for my build after seeing pics and videos of it on the net I wanted one so bad. So I sold My AMG and brought the 911. I would like to go 6L but im running out of money fast lol and only budgeted for a 5.7.
And yeah the price for aircooled porsches now is crazy. anything coupe is 60k+ and a 993 will run your over 100k and 300k for the turbo model!!
Believe it or not the engine is the only thing i dont have yet. I thought since they were cheap enough I could get one any time as im limited on room for now to store it while the body is in pieces.
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Only prob with the LS1's they're getting some decent K's on them now, as locally they were finished here back in 2005.
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yeah thats true anything less than 150xx will do for the project
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Cooling was my next question, guess they use the standard setup, I couldn't image much more seeing the std ls rads aren't that thick a core, surface area though could be the enemy. However from memory the old mans 911 days majority of coolant and water pipe runs up the drivers side (rhd models) but gauge is small for package reasons.
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MrRPJ
yeah thats true anything less than 150xx will do for the project
Bear in mind at these K's you'll be looking at a lite overhaul, valve springs/seals & perhaps oil pump too, have seen many VY series 2+ with crook oil pump regs that require a minor tear down to replace the pump as not worth repairing. Recommend doing this @ any rate whilst the LS1 is on the floor much easier!!
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Being an ex Porsche mechanic, and an LS1 lover, I am pretty interested to see this one finished. I am thinking cooling will be an issue, especially where to mount radiators?
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Being an ex Porsche mechanic, and an LS1 lover, I am pretty interested to see this one finished. I am thinking cooling will be an issue, especially where to mount radiators?
anyone remember this one?
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Yeah "Victoria" runs radiators in the front & has an electric water pump. There is no way you could run a normal belt pump in there. I took some pics/video's when i was over there.
I'll upload some pics later tonight when im at home. The biggest problem it had was engine bay temps when stationary. Once it got going the air temps would drop quick but it was humid as all hell when i was there. Worse then north queensland type humid.
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Ill run thermos on the back of the 2 main ones and have run all the time. hopefully that should be enough to keep it cool if not i have room in my wing for an extra one
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MrRPJ
yeah thats true anything less than 150xx will do for the project
Seen plenty going strong with far more kms on them & they are not very expensive to freshen up in the big scheme of things. :goodjob:
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Loving the build, great work.
My ls has done 150 and still pulls so hard it would give the kings cross ladies a run.
Should be a breathalyser hooked up to my computer lol
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New video so go easy Im still learning how to make them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cuv_S5R3vU
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New Video out. Any Ls Wizzards want to help with my ecu vats and changing it from auto to manual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75IbEo1dMnM
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Can't help with removing the Vats but I can save you a bomb by helping out with the harness of you have the standard ls harness and haven't already paid to modify it.
Justin from ultimate conversion wiring can do the vats and auto/man swap but he's not the most pleasant and helpful guy to deal with - In my experience.
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Yeah man I'm always down for help. I'm in brisbane tho
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sorry and to answer your question yes I have a full auto loom i need changed to manual. The easier the better i just wanna give it power and fuel and make it run. I have a question tho for the ls gods. do i use the ls to control fuel pump or just run a stand alone full time. second question is if i use the ls to control it does it make it a returnless system and if i fun a stand alone pump do i need a return line? cheers
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the factory ls1 ecu has a 12v output you feed to a relay for pump/s.
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Cheers Tre-cool SEATS! Im not to sure if ill keep these in or go to something like a sparco 2000 pro. Being 6.1 I might need something thats almost sitting on the floor! Has anyone got some 2000 pros installed that can tell me how they are for head room?
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If you're on the bigger side I suggest the cobra seats. I am 6"3 and a bit heavier and no hope of getting in the sparco 2000.
Ended up getting a set of cobra Suzuka GT seats from revolution race gear. Really good quality and very comfortable... IIRC I paid $1250ea last year (negotiated with them). I can measure height if you like...
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That's coming along great,
Should be amazing when it's all done.
Keep the updates coming mate! :cheers:
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Ok so I have cut out my factory seat mounts and made new ones and welded them in over the weekend. I gained about 3" of head room which doesn't sound like much but made a world of differance to where my knees meet the dash.
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Got most of the car in high fill
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I got new plates for the car
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I brought a jeep radiator and the fit is perfect. it fits the front bar like it was made for it. Because water cool LS now
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and i think once its complete this wrap will be the perfect touch!
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Small update. I had a delay on the left fender. the one I found he decided the shipping was too expensive and pull the plug on me after 3 weeks of stuffing around. So I ended up finding a mint NOS fender but as my luck would have it. It was Run over by a forklift and pancaked the nose. Lucky for me I know when I'm outta my depth and I didn't want any filler in the nose of the fenders as they do hold the bumper and take a bit of flex and a crack was the last thing I wanted. lucky for me I know an amazing metal guy who file finished the finder to brand new
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Now that was sorted I could move onto fitting the turbo extensions. This what I thought would be an easy job turned into a nightmare. But you can see I got them fitted with the help of the Co. whos a gun with the tig. while we were at it I did a indicator delete.
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I finished the last of the rust repairs on the doors and got them in highfill as well
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I got my roll cage back from the power coaters and im pretty happy with how it turned out for my first time.
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I got my plate welded in and my tilton pedal box installed.
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Im still unsure if the wheel centres should stay silver or go gloss black
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sanding sanding and more sanding. getting it down to 800
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Paint arrived
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