Anyone heard of this business (ATE Converters) or used one of these converters? Are they any good? Not particularly cheap but just curious as they sound well made in the description.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-VE....c100033.m2042
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Anyone heard of this business (ATE Converters) or used one of these converters? Are they any good? Not particularly cheap but just curious as they sound well made in the description.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Holden-VE....c100033.m2042
Absolutely everything on ebay sounds great in the description! :lmao:
Seriously, I would just stick with a well proven big name brand. :yup:
Rod I honestly have not heard of these stalls, it's a reasonable job to swap these out. eg. box out etc. Reckon as Ed mentioned go with a tried & true brand is my advice ;)
"Made to stall to 2500rpm"... behind what exactly? A standard motor? So what does it stall to behind one with a cam or one with a blower? It's all going to be a different speed depending on the torque the engine is making. More torque = higher stall speed on the same converter.
As above, get one from a tried and tested manufacturer, made to suit your combo.
You might buy that one, find it stalls at 3500-4k behind your combo and it's looser than a $2 hooker....not really what you want on a street car.
Rod, give TCE a call. They will build to spec for you based on your cars setup. They were great to deal with when I got my 6L80E converter off them a few months ago.
Thanks Scotty, I am pretty much 100 percent set on TCE. Did you fill out the spec form on their website when looking for the right stall? It is pretty comprehensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
I filled in the form plus I gave Jason their sales guy a call.
Good bunch of blokes to deal with.
Got a reply from Jason at TCE, and he has recommended a 2200 stall for my car. Now after speaking with Brad he reckons I should up it to 2500. I have emailed Jason at TCE to get his thoughts on the matter and am awaiting a reply. So either way, the car is getting a stall at the end of October when Brad can fit me in, and it is definitely going to be one of TCE's stalls. I have also emailed VCM to see if the VE trans cooler (PWR) they sell will still bolt up with the PWR Intercooler out of the Magnuson kit in place.
What are poeples thoughts on the stall? 2200 or 2500? (Blown car with around 370rwkw). And also, will the car still cruise at normal revs on the highway, or will it rev higher?
Rod I don't believe the stall will affect highway driving at all.Quote:
will the car still cruise at normal revs on the highway, or will it rev higher?
Thanks Mick :) A bloke at work told me that, I thought it sounded a bit off the mark. They only flash when you sink the slipper from what I have read, so tooling alongQuote:
Originally Posted by Micks
on the highway would just be normal revs same as a stock stall.
Provided it still retains lock up, it won't behave any different on the highway.
I'm not sure on the VE's (more familiar with stalls on the 4 speeds) but I'd go with 2500.
You still happy with your 2200 Scott? Don't wish you had gone bigger? Need to make my mind up between the 2 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
Mine is 2200-2400 ish. The torque of the blower does affect how much the converter will "flash". Also it depends on situation like going from standstill or planting it when rolling.
In terms of bigger not really. Mine is a smoke show now that I have 18% OD and FI Interchiller etc now!!! If your going to be doing some 1/4 mile stuff or big cam then yes go higher stall.
My primary reason for aftermarket was better, stronger, quality internals etc to take the extra torque and HP. If you read the various G8, Chevy SS and Cadillac forums the converter is one of the most common failures in a 6L80E. Converter drops its guts and then the pump which is right behind it distributes the metal through everything [emoji20]
Thanks for the reply mate, you have me thinking 2200 will be the one to go with as recommended by Jason. Also, hearing you regarding smoke show lol, I just fitted someQuote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
street legal drag radials to get that under some sort of control.
Don't rush your decision Rod.
Also you should get your gearbox tune altered after the stall converter installation to get the full benefit. I have played with line pressure, shift times, shift points etc.
Yeah, I have until the end of October to make up my mind. Will discuss the gearbox tune with Brad. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
Hi Rod,
I bought my converter (2800 stall) from 'Converter Shop' in Brisbane. Found it perfect with the 221/221 cam.
The only negative being is that it made the car a bit 'doughey' down low, but, that is quite normal.
Can say, never had an ounce of problem with it.
Rang Jason at TCE today and had a chat. He agreed with Brad that the 2500 would be great for my combo. So will be ordering one of these asap.
Didn't get a reply from VCM regarding the trans cooler but Brad has advised me to wait until he gets the car and he will measure up where the cooler goes and see what will fit as
not a lot of room left to play with.
Was having a think about your post and wondering why a stall would make your car doughy down low, I thought they would wake it up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator2015
It can make it doughy on light throttle as it slips. It will wake it up if you give it enough gas to flare. Can't say I noticed much of it when I went to a big stall, guess it may come down to how tight it actually is and what parts they use in it
Good description white lie! :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by white lie
Glad you got it all sorted Rod.
Yes not much room for a tranny cooler with the front mount heat exchanger taking up more real estate.
I was lucky to be able to bolt up the GTS transcooler. Also I run the Camaro deep trans pan. The extra fluid helps keep the temps down a little.
Hopefully with top mount blower as well as cam I won't have this problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by white lie
Thanks Scott.Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
How exxy was the GTS cooler if you mind saying and where did you source it from? Might be an option if we cannot squeeze something from PWR in there.
I also have the deep pan, now have to try and source the wide mouth filter by itself (last one came with the pan from US). Anyone know if you can buy them in
Australia?
Hi Rod,
I was lucky when I bought the LSA blower second hand the guy gave me the factory trans cooler. I just had to buy some adapter fittings and hose. It all bolted up to the existing factory holes.
You don't really want to block too much airflow to the heat exchanger.
I bought a tranny filter locally. I will shoot you a PM with the PN.
Cheers
Boost from a top mount is arguably the best way to cure a lack of low down performance ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK 346
But he doesn't have any lack of low down performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by white lie
He is having big traction problems already! :burnout: :lol:
Rod forget about the Stall in the Calais, instead go the TR6060 M6 less boring than the A6 mate. :bow: :yup:
Would be pretty cool, but costly I reckon Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micks
Could be a long and painful process purchasing this converter. After speaking to TCE on the phone and agreeing that a 13" 2500 will be perfect, I asked what is your preferred method for me to purchase and pay as I am ready to do it now. He said do it via email. Sent said email 2 days ago, you got it, no reply :(
Out of the 5 emails I have sent they have replied to one, and that took about 5 days. Will give it a couple more days and then on the phone again. I just hope they are better at
making and shipping the converter than they are at customer service lol.
Sorry to hear Rod.
I hope it's not the case.
If they didn't want my business after a week on their "preferred" method of contact, I'd probably go elsewhere. Plenty of good converter shops in Aus other than TCE
Yeah, I would spend my money somewhere else as well :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by white lie
The saving grace is that when I do ring him, he answers straight away is very helpful and sounds like a bloody top bloke. It is also a public holiday for the GF there today, so this morning IQuote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
flicked him a cheeky text message saying enjoy your public holiday and enjoy watching the Crows belt Richmond. His reply was, I hope so with a smiley face lol. So he must
be a good bloke yeah? Anyway, the converter is on his build list and I will be organising payment Tuesday, as it is public holiday here Monday (to get over Crows winning). I hope ;).
Stall converter inbound, and also ordered new filter for the trans (thanks for the link Scott). Great price as well at $44 from Brett's Trucks, Holden wanted around the $140 mark.
On another note, does anyone know off hand how much trans fluid will be needed for the refill, considering it will be drained dry I imagine?
I bought 3 bottles (12L) of the Penrite LV Dexron VI approved full synthetic fluid Rod.
Capacity is about 10L but more if running a tranny cooler. Also you might want more doing a bit of a flush.
Good luck Rod.
Thanks Scott. I have that fluid in the box at the moment and also have a near full one sitting on the shelf that was left over from the deep pan install, so will grab another 2 x 4 litre bottles :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty82
yeah i cant stand this. I emailed 5 different converter shops in the last month all using their own 'contact us' info. Dominator was the only one to even respond, and reply quickly to my further questions. Ive used them before, but the lack of replies from the others cemented Dominator as the only stallie id buy now.Quote:
Originally Posted by white lie
I don't think converter shops are the only one to be useless with customer service. VCM have lost me as a business, absolutely bottom rate when it comes to customer service,Quote:
Originally Posted by A PSYCHO
and I am a repeat customer on numerous cars, and have spent big coin with them. Hard to get good help these days unfortunately :(
I assume that these businesses must be so flat out and in demand that they don't need to impress anyone.
What is considered reasonable labour wise to install the stall converter? Remove exhaust, remove box, install converter and reinstall box, reinstall exhaust? Have I missed anything?
I am supplying the converter and the trans fluid and filter.
On top of this I am pretty sure I am going to be up for flex plate (Brad at Enhanced has told me he has them in stock), but do I go an upgraded plate over stock?
Don't want to be doing this again in the near future if the flex plate breaks again.
Any advice appreciated :)