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    WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    More wisdom from the dickheads in charge.

    Vehicle Safety and Standard’s Information Bulletin Changes to Emission Testing of Light Vehicles in WA (April 2009)
    The purpose of this bulletin is to inform you about changes in testing requirements to assess compliance with emission standards. Background The Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Regulations 2002 specify the in-service requirements for vehicle standards in WA, including maximum emissions levels. These standards refer to the Australian Design Rules (ADRs), which are the national standards applying to vehicles at the time of manufacture and are administered by the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government.
    Australian emission standards for vehicles are generally based on European regulations, with acceptance of selected US and Japanese standards. In recent years Australia has been improving its emissions standards in line with more recently adopted European standards. New vehicles are much "cleaner" than they were a decade ago.
    Testing In WA
    Engine modifications may substantially affect emissions, particularly the addition of turbochargers and superchargers. Vehicles conversions from petrol and diesel to dual fuel, LPG or NG, or certain imported vehicles may also require testing in some cases. However, the lack of practical options for in-service testing of vehicle emissions has been an impediment to the Department for Planning and Infrastructure’s ability to ensure that the WA community is able to benefit from the improvements to the standards applying to new vehicles.
    Although there is at least one company in WA capable of performing full ADR emission testing regime, these tests are expensive ($3000 or more per test). Authorities throughout Australia agree that in most cases it is unreasonable to expect that such expensive testing be required when assessing modified vehicles or imports. As a result, some jurisdictions have instead specified an IM240 test (for petrol or LPG powered vehicles) or a DT80 test (for diesel). These are abbreviated tests which approximate the ADR test regime but are simpler and cheaper to perform.
    Until recently, WA needed to rely on 5-gas analyser tests, as IM240 and DT80 test facilities were not available in this State. However, with the recent establishment of at least one IM240 test facility and the proposed opening of a DT80 test facility in the near future, WA will be able to specify testing procedures that are nationally accepted as a reasonable approximation to the ADR testing requirements used for new vehicles. It is intended to gradually "phase in" the new testing requirements, beginning with the more critical applications, such as turbocharger or supercharger fitment, and progress to other applications over time.

    IB-124A (Mar 09) Application date Apr 09 page 1 of 2 IB-124A IB-124A (Mar 09) Application date Apr 09 page 2 of 2
    Policy
    DPI Vehicle Examiners will require the applicant to provide evidence that an IM240 test has been performed on the vehicle and that the test results have been approved by DPI Vehicle Safety Standards as indicating that the vehicle meets appropriate emission standards for its type and year of manufacture. It is planned to implement this policy over time, using a phased approach as follows:
    The following applications will require an IM240 test after 20 April 2009: o Engines modified by the fitment of a supercharger or turbocharger
    o Individually constructed vehicles (ICVs)
    o Engines that have been significantly modified to enhance performance (eg: with the fitment of a high performance camshaft)
    o When there is evidence of reprogramming of the electronic control unit (ECU, the engine management computer), or a chip swap.
    The following applications will require an IM240 test from 1 Aug 2009:
    o CNG and LPG conversions on vehicles manufactured after 2002 where the owner cannot supply evidence of certification testing (that is the kit installers will need to request copies of test reports from the kit distributors and pass these onto their clients to show the vehicle examiner).
    o Major modifications to the exhaust systems - where the catalytic converter has been replaced with one not OEM or where the operation of the catalytic converter has been affected by aftermarket modifications (such as extractors).
    In addition, the following applications require an IM240 test from 1 December 2009:
    o Newly imported vehicles manufactured prior to 1989.
    Vehicle Examiners will require the applicant to provide a bone fide IM240 test report for the vehicle, along with all pertinent checklists required from the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification (VSB14).
    See http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa.../vsb_ncop.aspx.
    In the case of major engine modifications and ICVs, a covering letter from Vehicle Safety and Standards shall also be provided, verifying that the vehicle has met the pertinent emission standards.

    A vehicle which had a CNG/LPG conversion, a catalytic converter replacement, or is pre-1989 and has been imported,
    will not require a letter from Vehicle Safety and Standards if the report states that vehicle has met the pertinent emission standards.

    In some circumstances, Vehicle Safety and Standards may rule that an IM240 test is not necessary for the particular vehicle (e.g. an ICV that uses latest-model OEM engine and exhaust equipment, configured exactly as per the original manufacturer's specifications.) If this is the case, Vehicle Safety and Standards will provide the applicant with a signed letter to this effect. This letter must be provided to the Vehicle Examiner at the time of the examination.

    Vehicle owners who attempt to license their vehicle without approved test reports will be directed to the Vehicle Safety and Standards Section. The above policy will be closely monitored over a 12 month period and adjustments will be made to address any unforeseen difficulties.

    So now if the coppers dont like you, they can yellow your car and your ****ed if you have aftermarket extractors\ exhaust or a cam if you cant get it to pass an IM240 test.

    A test in which there is only 2 private company in the whole of the ****ING STATE! (one charging $3k a pop) to do them and there both in city.

    Yeah, Real fair for those living in the country or far north.

    So many people to kill, time to join a gun club.
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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    Bloody hell mate

    That has thrown a big bucket of cold water on things hasnt it ??

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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    Great. Not only will it hinder performance mods but it will put a big palm in the face of people thinking about converting to gas. What a joke.

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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    Wow, ive known that there is a test that has to be done but i thought it was 2k for each test until the car passes.

    What does it mean if we fit an ADR approved turbo kit?

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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    doesn't this make it better to get gas ?

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    Fkn Great news for the Performance scene in WA. I really Fkn hate this shit. This is why i didnt wanna cam in my VE.. Too late now, but if i get caught the car will be back to standard and sold.

    If the test was at the Gov's expense or it was like $200 or something, i could deal with it. But KEC's rates are ****ing bullshit. The other shop i dont remember the name is 3 ****ing K! Ive read on other forums that STANDARD cars with a tune would fail. I think theres been a BA XR6T Fail, and its cost him nearly 3k to get it over.. any car with a CAM.. YOUR ****ED!!!

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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    I don't know what the big deal is.

    It has always been against the VSR's to modify your vehicle from the manufacturers specifications...check out regulation 68, 69 and 70. Its always been there.

    We have ALWAYS run the gauntlet when it comes to mods..always have and always will.

    This bulletin addresses, among other things, emmisions pertaining to superchargers,turbo's and gas as these mods have become very popular over the years due to advances in these area's.

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    Re: WA DPI = Anti-Performance Cars

    We have been doing this (in service IM240 testing) in WA (with WA Performance) for the past 12 months. There certainly is something to be said about sailing past a defect station knowing the car is modified and fully legal

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    The thing is Tuna if they say, "hey that has a turbo kit on it". You say " yeah but it conforms". They say "yeah well you should have no trouble proving it by doing the test". It costs you $2000-$3000 for the test alone and heaven forbid it doesn't pass first go. The problem is the cost. I can see why they are doing it. But the costs involved really are out of the average persons reach. Politeness will be the key one would think. Don't do anything to get pulled over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPWISHN View Post
    The thing is Tuna if they say, "hey that has a turbo kit on it". You say " yeah but it conforms". They say "yeah well you should have no trouble proving it by doing the test". It costs you $2000-$3000 for the test alone and heaven forbid it doesn't pass first go. The problem is the cost. I can see why they are doing it. But the costs involved really are out of the average persons reach. Politeness will be the key one would think. Don't do anything to get pulled over.
    why? when people spend thousands upon thousands on their cars. i know its not the point but thats the risk thats taken

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    Wow, the costs involved are a joke. At least if that happens over here in nsw, the im240 test is free ! only problem is theres a 2 month waiting list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey777 View Post
    why? when people spend thousands upon thousands on their cars. i know its not the point but thats the risk thats taken
    Easy to say bud. What if it was your car though? You'd be pissed as would everyone.

    Granted we run a bit of a risk modifying our cars but F@#$, there are real criminals out there. The number of modified cars out there are slim at best in the whole scheme of things. Just more amo for the coppers really.

    Anyway it shouldn't effect me anymore as my Clubsport is now standard and my Berlina won't be seeing public roads very often.

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    Looks like I have made a good decision to pull the 402 from the Monaro, return it to stock and put the 402 into a cheap body for some fun like Lewis and Dan

    Bloody hell have we turned into a f@cken communist ****ry or what ??

    What a bunch of toss off's we have running this state

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    Thats crazy. Reading that makes you think what a bunch of crooks the government is, im sure they will get a kick back for each car that has to be tested. 2-3k isnt pocket change thats forsure

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    I remember hearing about this somewhere else.. supposedly its a 240 second test and costs $700 or $800.. you fail, you pay and retest and pay again. You keep paying until you pass..

    on the way to becoming a ****ing nazi state - secret police will be next!

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