Does the fpv product really kill the hsv's or exaggerated

[Solone]

Looking at wheels and motor magazines and although not tested on the same day it seems the fpv f6 and gt seem to go 0-100km/h in low 5s and quarter mile in low 13s

The hsv products are about the same, within one or two tenths of the fpv product. But all I read in threads is how the fpv products will kill the hsv products straight line? Kill? A few tenths at the most? To me that puts them on par.

In fact looking back over the years, only the chevy 5.7s legitimately had it all over the old 5.0 fords but when ford came out with the bigger 5.4 all I can see is a few tenths either way. But all this talk of one killing the other?

Is it an extreme exaggeration to say the fpv kills the hsv when there is a coat of paint between them over the quarter mile.

[Solone]

your thoughts? How much of a difference is 1 or 2 tenths over the quarter? a few metres?

[sixlta]

I don't agree in fpv killing hsv in any real world driving. I am a true Holden fan, but ford have delivered a brilliant car in the new range, yes there quicker in a straight line, but in everyday driving, does it make that much of a difference? I believe hsv have a better all round package.I know the e3 looks are a bit of a sour note for quite a few, but overall a better car, having said that, I would happily take a new sc ford if I had the funds available!

[cashie]

Mate, these FPV verses HSV threads have been done to death, even one very recently started by a FPV fanboy about HSV being scared to supply cars for testing (supposedly)...

[sjhugh]

I clicked the thanks button on Cashie’s post to see what he had to say and got nothing. I obviously misunderstood what to do and f*&ked it up. To the OP, get a life.

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[cashie]

I clicked the thanks button on Cashie’s post to see what he had to say and got nothing. I obviously misunderstood what to do and f*&ked it up. To the OP, get a life.

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Don't know what happened there... I just posted:

Mate, these FPV verses HSV threads have been done to death, even one very recently started by a FPV fanboy about HSV being scared to supply cars for testing (supposedly)..

[Solone]

In case you didnt understand, this is a pro HSV thread.

The differences in my opinion performance wise are negligible.

[OMR346]

your thoughts? How much of a difference is 1 or 2 tenths over the quarter? a few metres?

2 tenths over a 1/4 mile, depending on the actual times, could be a couple of car lengths.

And FYI, there are standard SC GT's running very low 12's and apparently some are even breaking in to the 11's. I have also seen stock F6's running mid 12's.

I am a GM man, always have and always will be, but that definitely deserves credit.

[Solone]

2 tenths over a 1/4 mile, depending on the actual times, could be a couple of car lengths.

And FYI, there are standard SC GT's running very low 12's and apparently some are even breaking in to the 11's. I have also seen stock F6's running mid 12's.

I am a GM man, always have and always will be, but that definitely deserves credit.

this above is the general attitude.. basically saying the FPV kills the HSV. Low 12s and 11s from a standard car?

[OMR346]

this above is the general attitude.. basically saying the FPV kills the HSV. Low 12s and 11s from a standard car?

In a straight line race, yes, they do kill the HSV's. Facts are facts. There might be some out there, but I am yet to see a stock VE HSV run low 12's. And low 12 against a high 12 is a big difference.

But that is about all the FPV has over the HSV. Besides looks (not a fan of the E3), but that is subjective to the individual.

And as we all know, it isn't all about straight line speed.

[SM1DY]

The only time your really going to see a difference between these cars is if your on the track or at the strip and even then it is likely some modification is done so them so they can't be accurately compared. Whether FPV has the upper hand with power or HSV with its tight chassis set-up, you'll never see any significant differences. I'm still convinced that most journalists that are reviewing these two cars (GT v GTS) are just regurgitating the same drivel whether it is what they think or not.

[Plenty]

this above is the general attitude.. basically saying the FPV kills the HSV. Low 12s and 11s from a standard car?

Because this " Low 12s and 11s from a standard car" is Bullshit!, funny how the media never manage to get hold of these freaky low 12sec cars.

How do you know they are stock, unlessit is your car!

[lukemcg]

As far as I'm concerned they are a different kettle of fish. NA V8 against a Blown V8? Factory blower or not, its still a blower! Of course it has every chance of being quicker. Strap a low boost blower onto the 6.2L and see what happens in a straight line.

[185iboy]

Because this " Low 12s and 11s from a standard car" is Bullshit!, funny how the media never manage to get hold of these freaky low 12sec cars.

How do you know they are stock, unlessit is your car!

The media tests them differently, my turbo ran a 12.8 on 19's with 1000kms on it. The best someone did in a stock F6 310 is 12.3, it's not that hard to believe seeing as a 336kw C63 does the same numbers. I encourage you to rent one and take it to the track.

Holden have dominated the power stakes for so long that now FPV have done something worth talking about it's causing a ruccus like it's IMPOSSIBLE anything can be quicker than a LS3. It's possible...but horses for courses. I'm into low fuel consumption, low noise and speed, 2 years ago I wanted loud n/a V8's and didn't give two shits about petrol. Everyones different and we have all aspects available to us on the market whether you want a turbo 6, s/c v8 or n/a v8 so be happy and drive what you want. If anyone cant handle that another car is faster than them either grow up or go drop some more $$$ at your car in vain.

[4VMan]

Because this " Low 12s and 11s from a standard car" is Bullshit!, funny how the media never manage to get hold of these freaky low 12sec cars.

How do you know they are stock, unlessit is your car!

EASY, Mags will allways get about a sec slower than private owners because magazines dont test cars with no spare, 1/4 tank of high octane fuel, traction compound on sticky drag strips with roll out advantage, they usually have a passenger on normal road surfaces, pump fuel and use a GPS....