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    2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    From Suzuki Australia FB page...

    Still no RRP pricing released in Australia as of yet...




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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    2016 model is $15990 rideaway (from Suzuki Aust)
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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Expect $22K +

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    2016 model is $15990 rideaway (from Suzuki Aust)
    That's last years 2016 old bike, still on runout...


    The 2017 GSX-R1000/R is the most major upgrade in years, new everything, hence the large price rises...

    Still no 2017 info on Suzuki Australia web site, but heaps of info about it outside Australia.


    2017 US prices have been released already as follows.

    Base - $14599 USD

    ABS - $14999 USD

    R model - $16999 USD


    So converted to Aussie

    Base - $19103 AUD

    ABS - $19626 AUD

    R model - $22243 AUD


    PLUS.... The Australia TAX....

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    I'll keep my S1000RR This thing doesn't even have forged wheels or an electronic suspension option. The engine looks to have possibly caught BMW from 7 years ago though, so that's good but we shall see on the dyno

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    It's going to be very interesting, to see how it compares to all the other brand 1K sports bikes, once they get tested together...

    Suzuki has been behind all the others, for the last few years with only minor updates. This is their Major Redesign on everything, and with variable valve timing too...

    It's already done a 1.38 sec lap around Phillip Island in full street trim by a Journo this week....

    Shaun Giles rode it yesterday at Phillip Island, and comment about it, in a video on the Suzuki Motorcycles Australia FB page....


    Here's a good read on how John Reynolds (3 time BSB champion) was employed by Suzuki Japan, to do all the test rider setup of the traction control system with the Suzuki Engineers in Japan...

    http://www.suzukibulletin.co.uk/2016/12/19/john-reynolds-talks-gsx-r1000-development-part-one/

    http://www.suzukibulletin.co.uk/2017/01/19/john-reynolds-talks-gsx-r1000-development-part-two/

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    That must have been one super fast journo (racer working for a magazine maybe?) if they went 1min 38 on a street bike around Phillip island.

    I remember watching Robert Bugden lap Queensland Raceway in 1min 16 on a showroom R1 with decent tyres about ten years ago and Darryl Beattie lapping 1 min 17's on a dead stock (including tyres) GSXR 750 complaining he was out of shape. Nobody on any street bike and even some race bikes were getting anywhere near that.

    Any of the 1000cc super sports for at least the last ten years has way more ability than 99.9% of people who'll ever buy them to ride on the road or even track days for that matter. Personal brand preference, looks/colours or riding comfort (relative of course, none of them are likely to be very comfortable) are probably the only real differences if you're looking to buy one, splitting hairs over 5hp or a few less kilos isn't going to make a lot of difference.

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Biggest interest to me reading this thread was how good a deal the /016 model is for $15,999.

    Secondary to that, is this bike a game changr? Had a 2003 and 2006 gsxr1000. You could definitely feel the advance between the models and even to my previous 99 R1 and then my 2008 ZX10R was also a cut above. But fact is I still have my 2008 ZX10R. I have it setup the way I like. It inherently suits taller riders. I rode a 2013 ZX10R a couple of years ago and whilst I appreciate that it had more power, I was not faster on it and could t wait to get back on my 2008 bike.

    I agree re S10000RR. That is a bike that will go down in the history books. Made the japs lift their game and they may well still be catching up.

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason01 View Post
    That must have been one super fast journo (racer working for a magazine maybe?) if they went 1min 38 on a street bike around Phillip island.

    Here's the two quotes from the Suzuki Motorcycles Australia FB page, referencing the 1.38 at Phillip Island...

    "A stock GSX-R1000R, Bridgestone R10 tyres good enough for 1:38s around the island...need we say anymore..."

    This was Suzuki Australia response, when someone asked who the rider was...

    "Two journos, one from Japan and one from Poland"


    I have a GSX-R1000 K2, which I bought brand new and still have today, still going super strong...

    K5 / k6 was the next big step up for Suzuki, but since then, they have only been doing minor updates, and have been behind for quite some time.

    So this all new 2017 design is looking to put, Suzuki back to the top of the pile again... Time will tell with the group tests of all the liter Supersports, from all the other manufactures together...


    The BMW S1000RR has been killing everything, and is the current King of the liter Supersport bikes 100%, even when the all new R1 came out and Joey Dunlop only did 1 day or so on it at the Isle Of Mann, before he jumped ship, straight back onto his previous S1000RR for the rest of the Isle of Mann event, as the R1 was too slow, and un-competitive.... Yamaha would of been spewing....

    BMW also directly compared the K5 as it was the current bench mark at the time, when they were designing and testing the S1000RR, I read somewhere...


    The game changer is going to be the VVT which broadens the power band, from the middle of the range to red line, instead of all the power only being at the top end of the range...

    No other Liter Supersport bike has VVT that I'm awear of...

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Ducati version of VVT. Mind you they have chosen not to use it on their Panigale models.

    https://youtu.be/nWWu2jC3SU4

    I think Suzuki's simple and somewhat elegant way of incorporating it might get other brands interested. Really depends on the gain it provides in relation to the added inertial weight in the valvetrain. It really will only add benefit to low/mid range, which is something no litre bike really lacks. Still more is better.

    Yamaha could use it the most. They went cross plane to improve low end back in the day, now they've cammed it etc to get back some power up top to try be competitive with everyone else. It's subsequently turned it into an engine that's not really good at anything except sounding good

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

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    Ducati version of VVT. Mind you they have chosen not to use it on their Panigale models.

    https://youtu.be/nWWu2jC3SU4

    I think Suzuki's simple and somewhat elegant way of incorporating it might get other brands interested. Really depends on the gain it provides in relation to the added inertial weight in the valvetrain. It really will only add benefit to low/mid range, which is something no litre bike really lacks. Still more is better.

    Yamaha could use it the most. They went cross plane to improve low end back in the day, now they've cammed it etc to get back some power up top to try be competitive with everyone else. It's subsequently turned it into an engine that's not really good at anything except sounding good

    From the video I linked above, it says the Suzuki SR-VVT system, retards the valve timing at a preset set RPM from centrifugal force as the balls move radially outwards when they over come the preloaded spring pressure, significantly boosting high RPM power...

    It also said the engines maintains power in the low and middle ranges, whiling boosting RRM for greater peak power. The new F1 style pivoting finger followers cut weight, which allows the engine to rev higher...

    The SR-VVT provides the power at the top end of the Rev range...

    Suzuki GSX-R1000's have always had awesome mid range power, so this new system is going to get the best of both worlds...
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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Quote Originally Posted by SASLS1 View Post
    Here's the two quotes from the Suzuki Motorcycles Australia FB page, referencing the 1.38 at Phillip Island...

    "A stock GSX-R1000R, Bridgestone R10 tyres good enough for 1:38s around the island...need we say anymore..."

    This was Suzuki Australia response, when someone asked who the rider was...

    "Two journos, one from Japan and one from Poland"

    I expect all 1000cc supersports would be capable of similar in the hands of very fast journos (racers paid by magazines/websites).


    Quote Originally Posted by SASLS1 View Post

    The BMW S1000RR has been killing everything, and is the current King of the liter Supersport bikes 100%, even when the all new R1 came out and Joey Dunlop only did 1 day or so on it at the Isle Of Mann, before he jumped ship, straight back onto his previous S1000RR for the rest of the Isle of Mann event, as the R1 was too slow, and un-competitive.... Yamaha would of been spewing....

    Maybe Michael Dunlop unless some sort of divine intervention occured, I don't think even BMW are that good.

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason01 View Post
    Maybe Michael Dunlop unless some sort of divine intervention occured, I don't think even BMW are that good.
    Yes you are correct, Michael Dunlop I was refering too.... Me bad... Brain fart... Hahaha....

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    Re: 2017 GSX-R1000/R World Media Launch at Phillip Island This week...

    Guy Martin (Suzuki) and Michael Dunlop (BMW) 2014 TT, enjoy.

    https://youtu.be/OmNXCJt7K3Q

    P.S. Note the BMW isn't exactly running away from the GSXR.

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