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    Thumbs up Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Mate as a Technician and a proud VE owner I'd highly recommend Mobil 1 I really think this is one of the best oils out there, But it is up to you do some research. And usually the best form of research is asking friends and family I recon, if you have any that have similar vehicle ask them for their preference etc. But as I said I'd use mobil 1 But that is just my opinion.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    i would speak to '450 KW Adventra' about viscosities etc. He understands that not everyone can afford to buy the mainlube products, and from my experiences he is happy to comment on other brands objectively if you PM him.

    Is it just me or does 0w-40 sound thin my dad has just had 15w-50 supersyn mobil 1 put in his LS1 and it has never run better, smooth, quite good on all start ups. He bought it through work from a supplier and got it at less than $80 each when he bought a 3x5L box...

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by VU_V6 View Post
    i would speak to '450 KW Adventra' about viscosities etc. He understands that not everyone can afford to buy the mainlube products, and from my experiences he is happy to comment on other brands objectively if you PM him.

    Is it just me or does 0w-40 sound thin my dad has just had 15w-50 supersyn mobil 1 put in his LS1 and it has never run better, smooth, quite good on all start ups. He bought it through work from a supplier and got it at less than $80 each when he bought a 3x5L box...
    Hi VU_V6,

    I have seen the discussions from 450 KW in some other posts on this topic. There is alot of very wide opinions on what to use and what not to use.

    Thats why I phoned around up to 30 dealers and other places over the last few days to get a feel for what's being used out there.

    While I was at the Mobil outlet one of the techs there said to use the mobil 1 5w50 however he did change his mind after I told him I only have 30K on the clock. He mentioned that when the car gets to around 100K then go for the slightly thicker oil.

    As I understand it that the 0w rating is only thin at cold start allowing fast flow to the top of the motor while in cold climate areas such as Canberra (currently about -2 right now). If you lived on the Gold Coast or areas with much more warmer climate you probably wouldnt need to go this way.

    "Wonky" - I do believe that Ford recommends Castrol Edge 0w30 in there high performance vehicles as I have read on the net.. Not sure if its the same as your using.

    Thanks for your comments guys its appreciated.. Will let you know how it goes.

    Cheers
    Phil

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    I appreciate the fact that you guys have spoken to many shops however, as an advanced trade automotive engineer my self I can tell you there is jack training about oils in an apprenticeship, you have to learn most of this shit yourself.

    I have been fortunate enough to play in this field for 30 years. (apart from owning an oil company and advising how to run some of the largest and most powerful machinery in the world)

    The key factor here is film strength, this is what keeps your load bearing surfaces from touching. The higher the viscosity the better the film strength the less the wear.

    Now there is a extremely small trade off with resistance to flow however, its barley measurable, also a good high tech Synthetic will reduce any drag from a higher viscosity with a superior slippery additive package when combined with higher viscosity it isn't hard to double the machines life.

    Now just to squash a few myths about oil like 10w60 being too thick, see the facts below.

    And by the way, you asked what is the best, without a doubt, Mainlube is, its just bloody expensive. (funny that!)


    10w60 MUST give better protection than 10w40 provided the additive packages and base oils are similar. Synthetics will give better protection as their base oils naturally have a higher V.I. (viscosity Index) additives can also be added to boost the V.I. The higher the V.I. the less the oil thins when heated the better film strength and hence less wear.

    Everyone puts so much attention on the viscosity @ 40C (quoted on the packaging) have a look at viscosity @ 100C, (from the spec) this is the temperature your oil is at 99.5% of the time.

    0w30 is around ISO 10 @ 100C (SAE 3) approx. (very much like penetrating oil)
    15w40 is around ISO 14 @ 100C (SAE 4) approx.
    20w50 is around ISO 18 @ 100C (SAE 6) approx.
    10w60 is around ISO 22 @ 100C (SAE 8) approx.

    Sowing machine oil is around SAE 7 @ 40C to give you some comparison on just how thin your engine oil is @ 100C.

    So as you can see, there's not much difference @ 100C (running temp) between the oils.

    The thicker the oil @ 100C the better film strength (layer of oil keeping the load bearing surfaces apart, reducing noise and wear)

    And of course any kind of noise (other than combustion knock) has to and must be different stages of very slight metal to metal contact. (hence different stages of wear)

    Within 30 seconds from a cold start up your engine oil would've warmed up at least 10 to 20C above it's starting temperature so the oil is not at the starting temp for very long.



    So change your oil at 1000klms from new (don't forget to flush) then change straight to a Synthetic 10w60 and do the best for your engine.

    To do better run 1 or even 2 FilterMags on your oil filter, 2 will ensure all oil going into your engine passes over a rare earth magnet, this will remove ferrous metal that can be small enough to fit through your paper element oil filter yet still be large enough to damage load bearing surfaces as they're forced through by the oil flow. This can cause even more damage if your engine is modified applying extra load.

    Cheers

    Steve




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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Thanks 450 kW,

    Well guys and gals... Heres the verdict on the Mobil1 0w40.

    It went in.

    The HSV mechanic didnt want me using it. Said it will make you engine sound like a diesel.

    After driving it the car for about 15 mins at 60klms /hour I arrived back at the dealership and sure enough, the engine sounded like something was loose rolling around in the bottom of the engine.

    I dumped the oil and put in a standard Mobil Super S 10w40 blended oil just to get me going. Alot better but I noticed the engine noise was still there just not as bad.

    I am not thinking of using the Royal Purple 10w40. I did some 'further' searching on the net and phone a very helpful at AutoBarn this afternoon. He seemed to know a bit about oils etc..

    I gave him 2 different oil choices Royal Purple 10w40 and Castrol Edge Sport 10w60. He mentioned the similar things that 450kw has about the viscosity rating and that the 10w60 will provide more engine protection at operating (or higher) temp than that of the Mobil1 0w40 etc.

    He did mention that the service interval for the Castrol Edge Sport was about every 10,000klm and the Royal Purple is designed for to provide better protection at 15,000klm intervals. Out of the 2 oil he said that the Royal Purple was the better, but the Castrol Edge Sport was a good choice also.

    SO, I am thinking of getting the Royal in the morning and an engine flush aditive and changing the oil. This oil is going in my VE SSV GEN4..

    Any opinions on my next adventure?... Also what engine flush treatment should I use? that I can buy over the counter at the spares shop?..

    Cheers
    Phil

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Hi VE-SSV I use NULON engine oil flush available from Supercheap, The guy that does my services (not holden stealership) says that the oil (mainlube 175) in my engine looks like new before oil change after adding the NULON and running engine for about 15minutes (do not drive it) the oil comes out like real dark.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by vessloveit View Post
    Hi VE-SSV I use NULON engine oil flush available from Supercheap, The guy that does my services (not holden stealership) says that the oil (mainlube 175) in my engine looks like new before oil change after adding the NULON and running engine for about 15minutes (do not drive it) the oil comes out like real dark.
    Thanks for the reply vessloveit:

    @$40 per ltr for the mainlube its a little bit to rich for my pocket. Can you buy Mainlube 175 in the shops?..

    As I mentioned I am heading in the direction of RP 10w40.
    So can you add the NULON while the engine oil is hot?.
    Do you just leave the car idle stationary for 15mins while it does its stuff?

    I intend to let the car cool down before I drop the oil so I dont burn myself. I have to drive my car for about 1 hour (round trip) to buy the products first..

    Thanks for the advice.

    Phil

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by VE-SSV View Post
    Thanks for the reply vessloveit:

    @$40 per ltr for the mainlube its a little bit to rich for my pocket. Can you buy Mainlube 175 in the shops?..

    As I mentioned I am heading in the direction of RP 10w40.
    So can you add the NULON while the engine oil is hot?.
    Do you just leave the car idle stationary for 15mins while it does its stuff?

    I intend to let the car cool down before I drop the oil so I dont burn myself. I have to drive my car for about 1 hour (round trip) to buy the products first..

    Thanks for the advice.

    Phil
    I Always do mine hot to make sure it all drains out properly. I don't know if it's necessary or not though.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    For what it's worth, I run Castrol Edge 10/60.

    Have spoken with Steve (450 kw Adventra) on many occasions and he is a gentleman and extremely knowledgeable and with his guidance the 10/60 was the logical choice (after i asked dozens of questions, thanks for all the advice Steve).

    The Clubby runs some high oil temps (110 deg is normal op temp in mine) so i want the protection. It runs smoother and quieter with the 10/60 (noticeably). Have used some expensive stuff in the past in this and other ls series motors and, so far, the 10/60 is the best i have used.

    I would love to use the Mainlube stuff but just a little too expensive for regular changes (5-8k).
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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    As already proven, none of the above match the Mainlube 175 Synthetic Race Oil SAE 10w60 for protection, longevity and quality however, if this is a little rich for your pocket, my next choice would be the Castrol Edge Sport 10w60, I haven't heard any bad shit about this product.

    If flushing with an additive, add the flushing additive to cheap supermarket oil say around 20w30 and procedure?? "use the the force Luke" (read the Mainlube flushing instruction here)

    As for engine oils lasting 15000 klms between changes? depends on your driving conditions.

    The VE says 15,000 klms, they achieved this by making the sump bigger, more oil gets used less (put through the motor less) so it lasts longer.

    With the Mainlube 175 Synthetic Race Oil SAE 10w60 We offer a free oil analysis at the prescribed OEM change interval to check and see if an extension is possible, it's all about how much shit your motor / driving habits degradate the oil.

    You can add any of these things to a hot or cold engine.

    The hotter the oil is when you drain it the more of the old oil drains from the engine, wear gloves.

    Cheers

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Thanks for the top info guys.

    Well I have bought the RP 10/40 to try. Oil is draining now and yes it was too hot to touch... lol..

    Its running out like water..

    If the RP 10/40 doesnt do the trick my next option is the Castrol Edge Sport 10/60.

    Steve: In your opinion, my choice of running RP 10/40 a safe oil to use in my VE-SSV?. I understand that the 10/60 provides that bit more high end temp protection, this is just the way I have gone first up.

    My driving habbits are probably not what you'd associate with a V8 owner. It gets driven to work mostly (50klm round trip each day) occasional use on weekends and doesnt get driven hard. Very smooth excelleration driving. The are the odd occasions where I will 'Up-It' to overtake on roads going to the coast.

    Cheers
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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    We always use the Mainlube 10w-60 when developing high performance engine combinations. Not only does it give the very best margin for protection, it also comes with the detailed analysis that Mainlube can deliver that describes how the engine is wearing with the increased power load. This process is invaluable to the serious engineering company

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    I do alot of short trips of about 5 km. Should I still use the 10/60 or something a bit thinner? I think my car spends more time warming up than it does at operating temps. It does get regular longer journeys of 10-20k's but doesn't see the freeway much.
    I was thinking of trying the Nulon 15/50.
    Any comments?

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60.

    Cheers

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by 450 kW Adventra View Post
    10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60, 10w60.

    Cheers

    Steve
    Ok, Thanks.


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