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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Well those posts should get the point across!.... hehehe.

    The RP 10w40 is in an the engine seems to be alot quieter and smoother (It scared me abit when I opened the bottle and the oil was 'Purple'). I will reserve full judgement after I get to heat it on a trip into the city.

    Castrol Edge Sport 10w60 will be on standby.. hehe...

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    I think Royal Purple is overrated. Some people treat is like its a miracle oil and that it will make a huge difference but sadly it won't. It's a great oil (i'm using the 10W-40 currently in the Calais) but the the performance and fuel economy gains the company claims, are just a little bit too far fetched for me. There are a few reviews around that show decent results but they compare it to a substandard oil to begin with.

    The previous owner of my Calais had the car serviced with Magnatec from 40 000 - 110 000km. I then have had it serviced at Powertorque with whatever they use. Last PT service was at about 137 000km, I dumped the oil at 139 994km (it was black as night btw) and refilled with Royal Purple 10W-40 with a Purolator filter. The difference? Maybe its very slightly smoother at idle but it really doesn't feel any different when driving (I decided a clean oil change feels the same). I don't feel any performance or see any economy gain as yet either. I'll continue using it only because I got some at a good price (Autobarn 20% sale = $68 for a 5L). Or else i'll try the Castrol Edge 10w-60, Mainlube is a pipe dream for someone on my wage.

    BTW - start up lifter noise did not change at all going from previous oil to Royal Purple.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by bouka View Post
    For what it's worth, I run Castrol Edge 10/60.

    Have spoken with Steve (450 kw Adventra) on many occasions and he is a gentleman and extremely knowledgeable and with his guidance the 10/60 was the logical choice (after i asked dozens of questions, thanks for all the advice Steve).

    The Clubby runs some high oil temps (110 deg is normal op temp in mine) so i want the protection. It runs smoother and quieter with the 10/60 (noticeably). Have used some expensive stuff in the past in this and other ls series motors and, so far, the 10/60 is the best i have used.

    I would love to use the Mainlube stuff but just a little too expensive for regular changes (5-8k).
    Ok, just a quick update.. (geez I have spent some money on oil this week oh well!)

    On the advice of Steve (450kw Adventra) and others that have had good results using the Castrol Edge, I have put the Castrol Edge Sport 10w60 in SSV tonight with new filter, the works. And like bouka (above) I did notice a difference as soon as I started the engine in how quiet it ran at idle compared to the Royal Purple (RP) 10w40. The RP certainly was better than the Mobil Super S 10w40, Castrol Magnatec 10w30 and the Mobil1 0w40 in terms of engine noise.

    Cheers,
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    Hi all,

    Continuing saga.

    The Castrol Edge Sport 10w60 is out of the engine. On advice from my holden dealer. Using the 10w60 could have a negative impact on my warrenty due to it being a bit to far from the recommended oil viscosity. So I am back to a 10w30 as per the book. I can't afford to test this therory...

    Throughout my experiments I did notice the different behaviour in the oil pressure meter on the dash. The meter showed a higher reading at operating temp than previously. On a steady excelleration it would increase from 4 bars to 5. On idle at the lights it would sit at 3bars instead of 2..

    Probably nothing realy in that but something I noticed.

    Cheers all,

    Phil

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by VE-SSV View Post
    Hi all,

    Continuing saga.

    The Castrol Edge Sport 10w60 is out of the engine. On advice from my holden dealer. Using the 10w60 could have a negative impact on my warrenty due to it being a bit to far from the recommended oil viscosity. So I am back to a 10w30 as per the book. I can't afford to test this therory...

    Throughout my experiments I did notice the different behaviour in the oil pressure meter on the dash. The meter showed a higher reading at operating temp than previously. On a steady excelleration it would increase from 4 bars to 5. On idle at the lights it would sit at 3bars instead of 2..

    Probably nothing realy in that but something I noticed.

    Cheers all,

    Phil

    There is no way possible that 10w60 could hurt your engine in any way what so ever, I would like to hear a valid reason on how it can.

    Don't waste your time talking to text book warriors as they don't know jack.

    If you didn't tell them it was in there they would never ever know, even if they tested it the test wouldn't say it was a 10w60. Remember even a 10w60 @ 100c is no thicker than sowing machine oil.

    If you had any issues with other things going wrong and you feared the 10w60 would cause warranty issues,(even though it wasn't the problem) they would dip the oil to see it has some and how clean it looked, rub it between their finger and thumb and it if felt slippery they would figure it would be normal.

    The book doesn't say you can't use a 10w60 and it would be impossible to prove it could cause an issue in a LS series engine (cause it can't)
    If they pull this shit in a court of law, they would loose and have to stand by the warranty.

    If a 10w60 could damage any engine and or void any warranty the oil manufacture would have to put a warning on the can.

    If you ask the noddy at the dealer he will quote the book as this is all he knows.

    If you don't open a can of worms there won't be an issue.

    Cheers

    Steve

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    I've been using Castrol Edge 10w60 for 15-20k now, changing every 5k and it has been great. Put simply, I cannot justify Mainlube - even though I fully appreciate that it is the top product.

    Steve's advice in this and other lubricant threads has been extremely valuable and if he is prepared to look favourably upon the Castrol product, then who am I, or anyone else, to argue?

    FWIW, yesterday I changed to a much more aggressive cam than what I had in the car. The new cam was driven for a few miles on the old oil - 10w30 or so from memory, that had been put into the car during the last 'handbook' service, about 2000k's ago - I left it in because I knew I would be changing the cam and oil anyway. Today, I dropped that oil and replaced it with Castrol Edge 10w60 and the valvetrain noise was reduced noticeably.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by 450 kW Adventra View Post
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    Hi Steve,

    Where can I get the oil filter magnets for the VE LS2 in Melbourne? Are they also available online?

    Thanks,

    Alex

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    so if there is a royal purple in 10w 60, which one would be better on a 100,000km ls1 supercharged, as the castrol doesnt come in L's/quarts, i can get RP in quarts for $12

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex(AUS) View Post
    Hi Steve,

    Where can I get the oil filter magnets for the VE LS2 in Melbourne? Are they also available online?

    Thanks,

    Alex

    Alex

    I have the magnets for LS series here at Mainlube, just about to do a small special with the engine ones $150 inc gst with free Express Postage freight.

    And you're on line now

    Just PM me for your needs and I'll be happy to help.

    I must get my "A" into "G" and get the T56 gearbox magnet bungs made, I have also been asked for a "bung magnet" for the diff with a Harrop Cover fitted as the cover is alloy and big shit to get off to try and find a flat spot to put the normal diff FilterMag inside. (I always regret saying this shit cause then I have to do it)

    Soon as I get some bungs I will move ahead in this area, I have been a bit busy lately, just finished addressing the "Heat and Contamination" issues with the lifts at Sydney Opera House by upgrading the hydraulic oil, coolers and filtration. Now starting to Filtergram the many gearboxes for lifting and revolving the stages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Y55-7UT
    so if there is a royal purple in 10w 60, which one would be better on a 100,000km ls1 supercharged, as the Castrol doesn't come in L's/quarts, i can get RP in quarts for $12
    Whilst I'm not doubting RP is a worthy product, my feed back with this product is not as great as the Edge 10w60, RP is normally a little more expensive so bang for bucks the Edge would have to be up there, if you want to spend more there's always the top of the pile where Mainlube is.

    Cheers

    Steve

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    I asked a well respected tuner/sponsor after being told he recommended a particular product and found out it was CASTROL EDGE SPORT. Will have to check the container tomorrow to see what viscosity as can't remember for sure. Put it in 1,000km ago at the 15,000 service and no complaints so far (not that I drive my car hard enough to tell).
    Oops! Forgot to check before we went away next day after the above post so just checked now as got home today and it's 25W50. Steve, what difference in protection between Castrol Edge Sport 25W50 I have and the 10W60 you recommend given I don't drive my car hard?

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    Oops! Forgot to check before we went away next day after the above post so just checked now as got home today and it's 25W50. Steve, what difference in protection between Castrol Edge Sport 25W50 I have and the 10W60 you recommend given I don't drive my car hard?
    I would be getting rid of it, specially as it is only rated API SG, when it should have SL/SM in it.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by VE-SSV View Post
    Hi all,

    Continuing saga.

    The Castrol Edge Sport 10w60 is out of the engine. On advice from my holden dealer. Using the 10w60 could have a negative impact on my warrenty due to it being a bit to far from the recommended oil viscosity. So I am back to a 10w30 as per the book. I can't afford to test this therory...

    Throughout my experiments I did notice the different behaviour in the oil pressure meter on the dash. The meter showed a higher reading at operating temp than previously. On a steady excelleration it would increase from 4 bars to 5. On idle at the lights it would sit at 3bars instead of 2..

    Probably nothing realy in that but something I noticed.

    Cheers all,

    Phil
    Thats the line we use at work, it's shit of course. I use penrite HPR10 witch is 10W50, have done in the last 3 cars I've had and I've never encountered a problem with the engines.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanss-v View Post
    I would be getting rid of it, specially as it is only rated API SG, when it should have SL/SM in it.
    I reckon if it's good enough for Victor Bray and given the tuner who recommended it to me I'll stick with it for now but might look at 10W60 next time.

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    Oops! Forgot to check before we went away next day after the above post so just checked now as got home today and it's 25W50. Steve, what difference in protection between Castrol Edge Sport 25W50 I have and the 10W60 you recommend given I don't drive my car hard?


    Good question Wonky.

    Years ago I would've said,"there must be a difference we don't think it would be that great though".

    However, now after the introduction of Filtergram I would say there is a definite difference.

    A couple of years ago I changed the Maritimo (twins) 8.2 litre V12 N/A 1050 hp @ 8600 rpm on pump gas Lambo's from the 10w60 Synthetic to the 20w50 mineral as they only run 3 to 4 hours between oil changes, the oil is hardly rooted so I thought we'd save a few bucks, the bloody wear metals went through the roof and doubled and when your race motors worth a "couple a hundred" the cost of the oil doesn't matter a fuk.

    It makes a difference worth cashing in on on a standard engine, it makes a fuking huge difference to a modified engine as your load literally doubles per square inch per bearing area so you need a lubricant that's at least twice the protection (film strength) to keep the engine from eating it's self.

    So next change slip back to the 10w60. (yes with SM as there are advantages in wear and cleanliness)

    Cheers

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    Re: VE SS-V GEN4 Engine OIL- Which is best?!

    instead of starting a new tread I'll ask here.
    I see you can get all the oils for a ve know except the diff. They say its filled for life, which it wont be for me but they recommended castrol saf carbon mod or carbon mod plus for top up only. What the hell, castrol don't even mention such oil on there web site and i don't know were i can get it. The only oil i can find is from penrite which they say can be used in the ve diff. (sin gear oil 80)

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