Supercharged HSV this year?....I say yes.

[korrupt]

Are we talking about the rumoured 25th anniversary model with the LSA engine ? Apparently that will drop later in the year.

[macca33]

Are we talking about the rumoured 25th anniversary model with the LSA engine ? Apparently that will drop later in the year.

All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

cheers

[Pickles]

All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

cheers

Yes Macca, that pretty much sums up my "thoughts".......on all accounts.
I'd be interested to see what Davo thinks about all this....might send him a P.M.!
Cheers, Pickles.

[BEARWOOD]

so realisticly there wont be many of them around if this is how it pans out. I think the original post was more to do with the run of the mill HSV's not a one off special edition. I think they would be too expensive either way whether it be a 1 off or a full production of them.

[Jag530G]

All 'best guess' indicators - from people who know quite a bit about HSV's mindset - are that an LSA-engined 'special' will be out in the last part of this year for the 25th Anniversary. I accept that Pickles has no 'inside' information, but he does have a fair idea about how the HSV boffins think, so I reckon this car is on and I reckon that it'd cost at least $100-110k. Whether the market accepts this remains to be seen, but at least it will be a 'special' with the bark to match the stickers.

cheers

And the gnashing of teeth you hear are the W427 owners watching their resale take a dive. No, I am not a W427 hater, love the car and am glad for anyone who owns one. Just wait to 2018 when the Commodore goes out of production, then you will be in clover.

Cheers, Matthew

[288vxgts300]

This went up for sale 2 weeks ago.

http://australianmusclecarsales.com....58721-hsv-w427

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

if hsv releases a special edition sc unit this year and people buy it...they are all suckers throwing moey away...and holden know it. I mean if they intend on releasing the VF in sc form imagine what that would do to a limited edition EXPENSIVE hsv just before launch.OMG ouch.
Its also hard to imagine holden able to afford the Rnd on a sc specd model....maybe thats what the 300mil they are after in grants at the moment??? I still find it amazing how many people all of a sudden are crying out for a sc model after years of cubes rule blah blah.
To be honest the sc VF cant come soon enough...im suprized it took holden this long considering how good and useable the xr6ts F6s and Gt335s have been. My bro has a 335 and it KILLS my R8...in allll ways except seating position and less traction(but that one ill give him with the power his makes)Like i said before...FI is the future.....get on board haha i will

[tunga]

Hsv haven't had to take a back seat to ford very often ,perhaps at the moment ,but i suspect not for much longer ,the supercharged HSV when it comes will be worth the wait ,and even if it does cost 100 grand ,look at what you pay for the mercs and bmws ,i think a car like HSV will give you with a blower will be unreal ,and great value for money

[BEARWOOD]

Hsv haven't had to take a back seat to ford very often ,perhaps at the moment ,but i suspect not for much longer ,the supercharged HSV when it comes will be worth the wait ,and even if it does cost 100 grand ,look at what you pay for the mercs and bmws ,i think a car like HSV will give you with a blower will be unreal ,and great value for money

So are you saying that if HSV release a supercharged car @ 100k they will be on par with Mercs etc an be better value than a 65k FPV GT?

[701let]

if hsv releases a special edition sc unit this year and people buy it...they are all suckers throwing moey away...and holden know it. I mean if they intend on releasing the VF in sc form imagine what that would do to a limited edition EXPENSIVE hsv just before launch.OMG ouch.
Its also hard to imagine holden able to afford the Rnd on a sc specd model....maybe thats what the 300mil they are after in grants at the moment??? I still find it amazing how many people all of a sudden are crying out for a sc model after years of cubes rule blah blah.
To be honest the sc VF cant come soon enough...im suprized it took holden this long considering how good and useable the xr6ts F6s and Gt335s have been. My bro has a 335 and it KILLS my R8...in allll ways except seating position and less traction(but that one ill give him with the power his makes)Like i said before...FI is the future.....get on board haha i will

I thought you also said in another thread that 'your r8' was 'long gone' ...

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

I thought you also said in another thread that 'your r8' was 'long gone' ...

Yeah sad to say it is...sorry to see it gone in many ways but wanted to upgrade with something newer but now cant afford a new hsv.
And all this talk about the new sc hsvs being near on 100k makes me want to cry...surely itd have to be a big stepup from what it is now then justa new engine to carry it. But then the 335 gt is carried by its engine haha...but its well under 70k

[701let]

Yeah sad to say it is...sorry to see it gone in many ways but wanted to upgrade with something newer but now cant afford a new hsv.
And all this talk about the new sc hsvs being near on 100k makes me want to cry...surely itd have to be a big stepup from what it is now then justa new engine to carry it. But then the 335 gt is carried by its engine haha...but its well under 70k

Yeah must have been sad for you. If hsv release a sc model and it is 100k well really if you can afford 70k then most probably you can afford 100k if you look at it that way. Bearing in mind the Ve is a better platform in all other ways..

What's the saying 'good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good'

[Jag530G]

Yeah sad to say it is...sorry to see it gone in many ways but wanted to upgrade with something newer but now cant afford a new hsv.
And all this talk about the new sc hsvs being near on 100k makes me want to cry...surely itd have to be a big stepup from what it is now then justa new engine to carry it. But then the 335 gt is carried by its engine haha...but its well under 70k

A 410KW LSA would be a big step up. Certainly compared with a 325KW GTS or 335KW FPV. And as for the argument about the cheapness of an aftermarket tuned up FPV doesn't really wash. A 410KW 3yr/100,000km factory warrantied car is simply worth more. Judging by the power that a tune can get out of any LS motor I would suspect the aftermarket guys could get a lot more out of an LSA if they want, you benefit from starting from a higher base if a tune tickles your fancy.

Though I won't be in the market for it, I do hope for a price north of $100K they use the Senator Signature as a base with the Calais V level interior spec.

Cheers, Matthew

[Jag530G]

What's the saying 'good things aren't cheap and cheap things aren't good'

When I was studying Engineering a lecturer told us of a variation of the saying you quote. It is particularly relevent to project management "Quick. Cheap. Good. Pick any two." If it is quick and cheap it won't be any good. If it is quick and good it won't be cheap and if it is cheap and good it won't be quick.

Cheers, Matthew

[Spoolin]

How many people in this thread can honestly say that, right here right now they can and are prepared to spend 100K on a HSV?

Honestly, 100k on any local produce is nothing short of a joke. You're starting to talk BMW 335 territory, now please don't go down the 'it's all about power' track, when most have been talking about the 'complete package' since FPV has been handing HSV their collective arses since the Miami release.