Supercharged HSV this year?....I say yes.

[whitels1ss]

HSV Cruze......as Holden/HSV focus on small ecomonical Front Wheel Drive cars

Hey Martin, stop stirring the pot.

[Martin_D]

Hey Martin, stop stirring the pot.

You dont remember SV1800?

[whitels1ss]

You dont remember SV1800?

yeah, certainly do
And the Brock Lada Niva.
What a classic......

[planetdavo]

No David, I would have thought that the point of the thread was about HSV's comeback to FPV
with bringing out a smaller, more efficient supercharged engine.

Every enthusiast and his dog knows that if HSV release a supercharged HSV, it WILL be limited edition, and it WILL be expensive.
HSV's range has some pros and cons, just as FPV's has some pros and cons. For people utterly obsessed with the motor aspect and not much else, well, there's only one answer I guess, and it sounds a little like yours...

[whitels1ss]

You dont remember SV1800?

What about the Camira SJ? ....Your mother will hate it!

[whitels1ss]

Every enthusiast and his dog knows that if HSV release a supercharged HSV, it WILL be limited edition, and it WILL be expensive.
HSV's range has some pros and cons, just as FPV's has some pros and cons. For people utterly obsessed with the motor aspect and not much else, well, there's only one answer I guess, and it sounds a little like yours...

But David, this thread IS about the motor aspect.

[planetdavo]

What about the Camira SJ? ....Your mother will hate it!

That wasn't a HSV model...

[whitels1ss]

That wasn't a HSV model...

OK you got me......well the HSV Jackaroo then.

[planetdavo]

But David, this thread IS about the motor aspect.

And that motor would be part of an expensive package. There is more to a car for most buyers than just a motor. I guess that's why HSV still sell a lot more of their cars than FPV does, even with that amazing, HSV "smashing" motor...
Like I said way back, I expect to see this car released with an LSA, and it will sell, even if the online peanut gallery poo poo's it. Internet forum opinions are like an @rsehole...everybody's got one, and they are more often than not rather negative.

[Hi Octane]

If holdens are so great why did they need a bailout, make a good product at a good price & they sell.

My local dealer still has early 2011 plate hsv's available, selling real well.

[Martin_D]

Commodore is a good car at $50K
A not so good car at $150K
They worked that one out

[whitels1ss]

And that motor would be part of an expensive package. There is more to a car for most buyers than just a motor. I guess that's why HSV still sell a lot more of their cars than FPV does, even with that amazing, HSV "smashing" motor...
Like I said way back, I expect to see this car released with an LSA, and it will sell, even if the online peanut gallery poo poo's it. Internet forum opinions are like an @rsehole...everybody's got one, and they are more often than not rather negative.

I still would not be shocked if HSV brought one out to answer FPV, seems a few companies are bringing out supercharged or turbocharged engines these days.
Yes I like the N.A. big old engines but I think it is the direction that the market is going.
Hey, but that is only my guess or opinion and I have been known to be wrong many times in the past.

[whitels1ss]

If holdens are so great why did they need a bailout, make a good product at a good price & they sell.

My local dealer still has early 2011 plate hsv's available, selling real well.

Because the manufacturing industry is farked in Australia.....
Sadly it is just a sign of the times

[planetdavo]

If holdens are so great why did they need a bailout, make a good product at a good price & they sell.

Buyer habits have changed, combined with the very high Aus dollar killing most exports whilst making imported competition much cheaper or able to be loaded with options for the same price as before. "Competiton" these days is more likely to be a small car like Mazda 3 or a more practical "lifestyle" SUV, not Falcon. The large car class is in pain, and the large car class is what made our industry unique compared to much of the world. Go smaller and we are just duplicating what's already available. Cue CKD foreign models assembled locally, not a unique product designed here.
Factor in many other countries governments supporting their own car industries either directly or indirectly with cash injections, and we end up with an industry that's suffering a rather big headache at the moment...

[Martin_D]

Because the manufacturing industry is farked in Australia.....
Sadly it is just a sign of the times

Because we want to be paid three times as much as anyone else in the world, and work half as long for it
Unless we paid Holden to be here, they would have been packed up and long gone, and with Commodore going, good riddance to them.

Hopefully some of those on 3 x pay rates will drop $200K on the new Omega with a $10K crate engine in it.
At around $150K margin per car they wont need to sell more than half a dozen to break even on the project. The rest is pure cream

However this may be one of the 'last good things' as those of you that voted man-marrying Bobby Brown into power to protect your 3 x pay rates have effectively killed the Commodore and the Aussie V8 car. Interesting isnt it!