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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by SUZUKI MALISHA View Post
    noooo.....handling was way better in the GTrspec. Performance wise that is....and thats what the test was for right? Yes it was. Ive never heard a car winning a comparo because it was slower around a corner...but it was comfier....OMG. They take this R spec way out of context...because its a R SPEC car..designed with track inspiration. Its a concept the magazine doesnt address even once to explain the suspension tune and setup.
    The very statement where they comment that they feel the hsv wouldnt loose any time at all around a track is just plain rubbish to me and any other non biased reader. We all know despite the standard GT being harder to drive fast...it was still faster around a track as it was. Now its even faster with more grip and a suspension setup designed for cornering and they flatly ignore the possibillity of it out performing the HSV. Give me a break. How can you possibly defend that biased rubbish.

    Now if they where comparing a grange v the chrysler and the GT with cruising the focus then you can throw out everything ive said so far. But this is supposed to be a performance comparo......not a ....but mines comfier and has an extra techy gismo so that makes up for all the seconds im behind down a strip and around a track.
    Mate, if you think, that the RSpec is the best thing sinse sliced bread, that's fine...and it may well be....in your eyes.
    However, if ya're gonna quote a magazine, like I said you should quote it CORRECTLY, & not try to "twist" everything with your own "Gobbledygook"!
    Anyway, It could be me talking "Gobbledygook"....I'm ok with that, but like I said, & don't take my word for it, go & READ THE MAGAZINE, & what it said about ALL the cars....I actually thought it was a pretty balanced article...but there will be better ones, I'm sure of that. Motor will definitely do one for sure, and then we have the prospect of HSV's 25th Anniversary car......which I'd originally thought would be a S/C car.....but don't hold ya breath on that one.....but I'm still hoping......that we won't get another "Sticker Special".
    Anyway, if ya've got a lazy $8.95, go & buy the latest Wheels, & make ya're own mind up.....there's actually some other pretty good articles in it!
    Cheers, Pickles.
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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Sticker special pickles, no charger (as I have said before).

    Don't despair to much though, the good stuff is less than a year away.
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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Oh dear. Anyone else remember the days when forums used to be filled with people that LIKED the brand the forum was about...?
    Several points Mr Malisha (and others at times) seem to have problems with.
    Firstly, Wheels is NOT a hardcore “performance” magazine. They test all sorts of cars ranging from the baby’s through to million dollar exotica, with “performance” being mentioned as PART of the test, but not remotely all of it. The “performance” mags covering the d!ck beater crowd are your Motor mag, Street Commodore’s etc. Want a race car or a fully sik car? Buy them instead.
    I’m not sure what story you read Malisha, but you’ve clearly either read a different story, or your own personal bias, interpretation, hatred of Holden’s, belief of urban myths or whatever is coming through. ALL the cars had positive and negative points made about them. If it was the Holden love fest you “claim”, it would all be one-sided. It wasn’t CLOSE to being one sided.
    R-spec is NOT a track car, so has NOT been unfairly judged. Some of the R-spec changes have fixed some issues with the existing suspension package, but have been judged to have introduced other undesirable issues. Since you claim to have no bias, surely you would acknowledge (for example) that the rear of a car taking a big hop sideways when it hits a mid corner bump is a particularly undesirable characteristic for most owners- being a road registered, mildly updated FPV GT and all, not remotely a hardcore track pack. R-spec would be absolutely SMASHED by a truly track focused car.
    Anyway, people can beat on forever about comparisons. Some will get it right, and some will get it wrong. Some might have even owned one of the models compared, and others may have even driven all three.
    Are people who have either owned some of these cars or driven them capable of giving a properly balanced assessment we can all believe?
    MAYBE.
    Believe anything you read or hear, whether in mags, on forums, or from a bloke down at the pub with an open mind. They might be right, but they might be very wrong too. A person commenting on here that has personal experience could EASILY have VERY different priorities to the majority of the buying market, and most importantly to those reading, VERY different priorities to YOU. They might say, based on their own priorities, that the mag stories are sh!t, or what I say is sh!t.
    Maybe- maybe not, but to automatically dismiss it and rubbish it says much more about the person than anything else. Some of you (allegedly) Holden "fans" on here don't have to agree with what has been written, or with the outcome, bit it doesn't mean YOU are the one that is right...
    Ford fanboyz will find reasons until the day the planet Earth implodes for why their personal choice wasn't judged the winner. As have Holden fanboyz in the past.
    There are far more important things in life fellas.
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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by planetdavo View Post
    There are far more important things in life fellas.
    Like GTRs......

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_D View Post
    Like GTRs......
    Finally, a journalist (once, amongst other areas of expertise).

    Careful Martin, you have entered the davozone! (eerie music plays in the background).

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    I never line him up at the track so to me he doesnt exist.......
    Per journos I spent some time with Paul Cockburn the other day, and while you might not guess it, that boy sure can drive

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    We all know what Martin's priorities are in a new car.

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_D View Post
    I never line him up at the track so to me he doesnt exist.......
    Per journos I spent some time with Paul Cockburn the other day, and while you might not guess it, that boy sure can drive
    I would never contemplate a name dropping contest with you mr D, but Morley and horley aren't too shabby either.

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by planetdavo View Post
    We all know what Martin's priorities are in a new car.
    Yeah, what would he know, aye dave.

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by planetdavo View Post
    We all know what Martin's priorities are in a new car.
    This -

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_D View Post
    This -
    Get that shit off the forum, it is burning my eyes!

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by bouka View Post
    Yeah, what would he know, aye dave.
    Martin could be a person of immense importance...but his often displayed hardcore street and/or racing focus doesn't mean he would give a balanced review of R-spec vs R8 vs 300 SRT8 for "most" of the potential market. His review might only represent 5% of the potential market, or 10%. Or whatever.
    Just keeping it real and all.

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by planetdavo View Post
    Martin could be a person of immense importance...but his often displayed hardcore street and/or racing focus doesn't mean he would give a balanced review of R-spec vs R8 vs 300 SRT8 for "most" of the potential market. His review might only represent 5% of the potential market, or 10%. Or whatever.
    Just keeping it real and all.
    We buy race cars for the race track, and road cars for the road. Never the two shall mix Davo, so I reckon we have a fair handle on it

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by bouka View Post
    Get that shit off the forum, it is burning my eyes!

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    Re: Fpv gt rspec

    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_D View Post
    We buy race cars for the race track, and road cars for the road. Never the two shall mix Davo, so I reckon we have a fair handle on it
    According to you in the past Martin, every road car has to have all wheel drive to be considered "safe". No amount of electronics can make a two wheel drive car "safe" for regular drivers.
    So, you give pretty balanced reviews then, apparently.
    Or, your personal opinion has been written for us all to read.

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