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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    We have United 100 here, I was initially keen on it, as I drive past the servo every day, but my tuner reccommended against it due to the fuel being inconsistent and going off quicker?

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    hahaha yeah well i say 3, 2 of those are over a hour round trip out of my way and the other one only has eflex half the time so its a little inconvinient

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by S_M_I_D_D_Y View Post
    You dont NEED to retune, but i suppose a tune would give the maximum benifit


    Pretty keen on eflex myself, the only problem being there are only 3 service stations in Newcastle area who sell it and outside Newcastle im not sure its available except sydney.
    Can anybody tell me other locations i can get it? expecially close to eastern ck, whats the closest servo? cheers
    If your talkin about eastern creek in western Sydney, there is a servo about 5 minutes up the road of the great western hwy.
    Thats where I usually fill up with eflex and love it
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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by S_M_I_D_D_Y View Post
    You dont NEED to retune, but i suppose a tune would give the maximum benifit


    Pretty keen on eflex myself, the only problem being there are only 3 service stations in Newcastle area who sell it and outside Newcastle im not sure its available except sydney.
    Can anybody tell me other locations i can get it? expecially close to eastern ck, whats the closest servo? cheers
    There is one on the Great Western Highway at Girraween - Caltex - City bound, top of the hill after Greystanes Rd.

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by macca_779 View Post
    United 100 doesn't interest you Simon? Or better yet eflex


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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by redvxr8clubby View Post
    There is one on the Great Western Highway at Girraween - Caltex - City bound, top of the hill after Greystanes Rd.
    Yeah that's the one I got to and was talking about.
    Also the price of eflex there is usually pretty cheap compared to others I go to.
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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Also this with that servo the blend has been pretty consistent with no less than 80% ethanol.
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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    So your saying that E10 is better then 95 octane fuel? Is that for tuned or stock cars?

    Ps current car is a 2010 SIDI SV6

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by MR57SS View Post
    So your saying that E10 is better then 95 octane fuel? Is that for tuned or stock cars?

    Ps current car is a 2010 SIDI SV6

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    I keep track of fuel economy in my car (VYII) and found 95 gave a bit better fuel economy than E10 enough to nearly offset the price difference. So the 95 works more efficiently in my car than the E10. Now my car is not tuned so I would say to get the benefit out of E10 you would need a tune for sure.

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Did the BP98 vs United 100 experiment on a customer's car , the results were pretty disappointing to say the least.

    No where near as knock tolerant , and a loss of power & torque right across the rev range even after tuning .

    Steer clear. Eflex /E85 on the other hand

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    I have heard it is possible to add the ve style ethanol sensor to a earlier model commodore for running eflex , e85, 98 all with 1 tune. Is this correct? What tuners might have experience with this setup in the Newcastle to Sydney area

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by S_M_I_D_D_Y View Post
    I have heard it is possible to add the ve style ethanol sensor to a earlier model commodore for running eflex , e85, 98 all with 1 tune. Is this correct? What tuners might have experience with this setup in the Newcastle to Sydney area


    well I know you can incorporate the GM sensor into the new haltechs, but not sure on putting the sensor onto an older holden ECM.

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    What about the E38 PCM on the VZ L76?

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    Re: Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    I was under the impression that the VE doesnt use an ethanol sensor, I thought they use the fuel level to determine when you've filled up and then recaluclate the % ethanol by monitoring the STFTs, I could be wrong on that though.

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    Thoughts on E10 vs 98 vs 91

    Quote Originally Posted by Xjas View Post
    I was under the impression that the VE doesnt use an ethanol sensor, I thought they use the fuel level to determine when you've filled up and then recaluclate the % ethanol by monitoring the STFTs, I could be wrong on that though.
    No that's how the US cars do it. Ours have a physical sensor. Much better our way.


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