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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Also, I'm still not sold on the goofy new SS front end while the Omega looks a bit strange with the big chrome vent but no other chrome visible side-on. Calais is still winning for me looks-wise on that basis.
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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jkgmh View Post
    What is it ? SS ?
    It has quads so I think so.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by sjhugh View Post
    The compartments built into the doors of the early luxury VE’s had hinged covers that opened and closed.

    Also the centre console lid on the early models slide as well as hinged open. This allowed you to slide the console lid forward and conceal the centre cup holders.

    These were deleted soon after release as were a lot of minor bits and pieces like compartment lights, suede on the Calais doors and such.

    Holden saved money by dumbing down the luxury/common bits not long after the media release. It was what a matter of now we got good reviews we’ll treat the buyers as stupid and remove all this stuff.

    At the time this was being noticed by some of the forum members who owned early release models and who were looking to update, Planet Davo defended the practice of quietly reducing the vehicle specifications as common among manufacturers. Funny I haven’t noticed this with the Euros, what I’ve seen is every new year model release seems to have newer tech added not deleted but I guess they sell to the stupid car buyers.

    Commodore has proven, buyer won’t accept dumbing down, they just look elsewhere.


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    Considering everything that has been done to sneakily remove features and now we are getting done over with features and price compared to US. Lets put together a boycott unless they match price / features being sold elsewhere and justify the differences. How many people would agree to that?

    Maybe they havent learned anything about the market and loyal supporters at all ... social media is a powerful levelling tool and scammed customers learn quickly ... it is the locals that should get more for less particularly when it is tax dollars that are propping up the industry.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

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    Considering everything that has been done to sneakily remove features and now we are getting done over with features and price compared to US. Lets put together a boycott unless they match price / features being sold elsewhere and justify the differences. How many people would agree to that?

    Maybe they havent learned anything about the market and loyal supporters at all ... social media is a powerful levelling tool and scammed customers learn quickly ... it is the locals that should get more for less particularly when it is tax dollars that are propping up the industry.

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    Might aswell put a bullet in between commodores eyes. I don't care if the yanks get it cheaper, so long as it means there is a chance we still get a locally produced rwd v8 Holden.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by csv rulz View Post
    Might aswell put a bullet in between commodores eyes. I don't care if the yanks get it cheaper, so long as it means there is a chance we still get a locally produced rwd v8 Holden.
    Why is that? If the business case works for the US why cant it work here with same or greater volumes? Or are we subsidising US cars?

    I mean every other manufacturer ramps up its prices for Aussies which is bad ... but to get it from your own its a bit hard to swallow. I am sure this will sort itself out sooner or later. It is those that adjust earlier that will be more successful.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex(AUS) View Post
    Why is that? If the business case works for the US why cant it work here with same or greater volumes? Or are we subsidising US cars?

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    They don't have a performance brand to protect. I doubt the new SS in the states will eat into the Corvette/Camaro market, but here at home HSV would disappear within a year without a gap. The LS3 will never happen until the LT1 comes to HSV.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    They have a Calais and SSV set up in a tent at the Clipsal 500. I love how the SS looks in person. The orange paint looks awesome in the flesh too. The only thing I wasn't completely sold on was the black wheels.
    Usually it takes me a while to come around to the look of a new commodore, but I have liked this one straight from the start.



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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    What cars

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    The new orange reminds me of Tiger Mica. Everyone went nuts over it when it was released..... Now you can't give them away.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_sv8 View Post
    They don't have a performance brand to protect. I doubt the new SS in the states will eat into the Corvette/Camaro market, but here at home HSV would disappear within a year without a gap. The LS3 will never happen until the LT1 comes to HSV.
    Really. Think back a little while and recall when you could spec a HSV spec engine in any model commodore. Didn't hurt HSV then.

    But times have changed. LS3 will NEVER be fitted to a Holden model here. Better chance getting L99

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jkgmh View Post
    What cars
    It's the same two show cars the SS-V and the Calais.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Plenty View Post
    It's the same two show cars the SS-V and the Calais.
    Think he was distracted by the promo chicks

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by C4B View Post
    The new orange reminds me of Tiger Mica. Everyone went nuts over it when it was released..... Now you can't give them away.
    Love the colour on the VF. Can't wait to see it in person.
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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jc_sv8 View Post
    They don't have a performance brand to protect. I doubt the new SS in the states will eat into the Corvette/Camaro market, but here at home HSV would disappear within a year without a gap. The LS3 will never happen until the LT1 comes to HSV.
    That's fine. Make Aus SS cheaper than US SS and HSV Clubsport with LS3 the same price. If there are more features then charge more in line with what they are.

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    Re: VF Commodore revealed - Official details and pics- Part 2

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    It's the same two show cars the SS-V and the Calais.
    lol

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