Xr6t BA vs ls1.... Both unopened

[Drizt]

In fact I would say the xr6 handling is marginally better then the ve ss redline, I am not one of those people who equates firmness with handling, the commodore is to stiff to be comfortable and the seats leave a lot to desire, the falcon seats are more comfortable but the seat is to high. A cross between the 2 would work for me. The simple. Facts engine wise is the xr6 is smoother and better around town

My parents have a FG G6E and my Calais V is a much better driving and handling car. I guess it must just be personal preference.

By the way... I find the XR seat head rests completely off putting. Is there a way to change the angle of those things so that they don't force your head too far forwards? They make me feel sick when I have to drive those damn things.

[BEARWOOD]

Whats the point to this thread, are you actually going to buy one or the other?

So far you have a thousand different opinions and i'd say thats as good as its going to get here...

[Plenty]

In fact I would say the xr6 handling is marginally better then the ve ss redline, I am not one of those people who equates firmness with handling, the commodore is to stiff to be comfortable and the seats leave a lot to desire, the falcon seats are more comfortable but the seat is to high. A cross between the 2 would work for me. The simple. Facts engine wise is the xr6 is smoother and better around town

You may think that but your wrong, the VE SS and even moreso the Redline are much better dynamically over the FG let alone the BF. The FG initial turn in is slightly better with maybe even a little more feel or feed back but that's all where it ends. Mid corner grip and corner exit power down of the VE leaves the FG needing every bit of its extra force fed grunt just to catch up before the next corner. The seats in the VE shit all over the lacklustre bolstering of the XR range as well, let's not talk about the antiquated driving position either. I have had the privilege of owning both of the brands latest offerings and have spent a fair whack of time in both on track and in advanced driver training for the A.D.F.

NVH on the Ford is superior as is the cruise and multimedia interface, the quality of the ZF box is second to none although the Gm slusher smashes it in sequential mode. The diff in the VE is also a better unit (ZF).

The blown 5.0l is a world class unit but it just hasn't got the chassis back it up.

[LuisS]

OP

Xr6t BA vs ls1.... Both unopened
Which is likely to be quicker over the quarter mile?

....just sayin

[A PSYCHO]

fate that this thread pops up when im prepping my HSV for sale and shopping for an XR6T.

[Angeldust]

what would be quicker around a circuit?

[macca_779]

what would be quicker around a circuit?

What mods?

[JimmyXR6T04]

These threads always provide a laugh... Fords forced induction motors are great bang for buck to get cheap power. For what i would spend on a full exhaust for my caprice, i could have tune + injectors on either the 6T or SC 8 with money left over (maybe up to $1000 left over) and a lot more power than the caprice could offer... I love the caprice, but i'm finding it very hard to resist a GT next year! For me to get the power i want in the caprice, i would have to outlay quite a lot more than needed in a factory forced induction car... That's quite obvious isn't it? Not sure why so many still can't see the value of the ford!

As for what handles better... Perhaps the holden nudges the ford on that front, but who really pushes a car that hard on the street to find either limits? All well and good to say the holden's are better on the circuit, but we drive on the road... Apart from an odd track day...

[planetdavo]

Any coincidence that this subject has popped up around the Easter school holidays?
Faaaark me. As if people haven't batted off enough over this subject in the past already...
Maybe it was just started as an April Fools joke on a Holden forum...when you look at the start date and time
Which one is "fastest"?
When you put the two of them on the dragstrip, and both drivers have similar technique, and one of them wins, you know.

[bozodos]

My reservations about how fords drive, I prefer the fact that the LS motors have such a wide availabily of parts both OEM and aftermarket due to being a USDM line of engines over the limited support for the Ford 6.

That said if the company could actually market its force fed offerings, they might not be in the position that they are currently in - I could have bought a BF Typhoon for what I bought my VZ for, which is incredible value for money IMO.

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

Haha that's just classic stuff.

I guess most of us don't hang around with teenage girls, so we didn't get the memo.

Having owned an XR I'm well aware of how good these engines are but to call them "street kings" just shows a lot of five knuckle shuffling.

REALLY hey...so your obviously not aware of all the vlt and skyline tuners switching to 4.0t motors then.
And my bro has a new Miami gt and people go on about it not having the chasis for the engine...please its a GT...its not really supposed to. And its got a lot more power then the badge says that's for sure. The GT rspec is what they should have been from the start though.
But as for the turbo sixes...I cant believe how many guys around here switch to childish nonsense to hide their denial of the 4.0ts ability to make far cheaper and superior power then the LS1s.
Don't deny it...embrace it. Of course if the OP was talking about trackdays then it would be a different story...far different.

[sjhugh]

Of course if the OP was talking about trackdays then it would be a different story...far different.

Of course it would be a different story.

After a couple of laps both the Ford and Holdens will fall over.

No track capable cars are produced here, just street cars.

The track cars are built and/or up spec’d for the purpose by their owners. That means in most cases their track ability is closely related to the depth of the owner’s pockets.


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[Plenty]

The GT rspec is what they should have been from the start though.
But as for the turbo sixes...I cant believe how many guys around here switch to childish nonsense to hide their denial of the 4.0ts ability to make far cheaper and superior power then the LS1s.
Don't deny it...embrace it. Of course if the OP was talking about trackdays then it would be a different story...far different.

First of all your beloved track weapon the "R" spec got pumped by a shitty arse Chrysler 300 around the track in the latest comparo (hate to say it but it told you so), and when has anyone on here denied the tuning ability bang for buck of the Turbo 6? Power being equal the Ford/FPV will get spanked everytime, both on road and track by the Holden/HSV equivelant.

Now isn't it past your bed time?

[***VX*R8***]

My brother and one of my best friends both have 2010 FG XR6 turbos. Both are ZF 6spd autos. Even though stock they both give my car (VX clubbie, mafless, otr, 3.73, exhaust, manual still running A4 tune for 3.07 and SS ind. cai) a very good run and definitely have me top end I find them very boring in auto form.

I agree they are very quick and have heaps of potential but I wouldn't call them street kings. One thing I have noticed though is the owners tend to think they very much are, even completely stock lol. I've heard of my brother's "supposedly" beating a 317 M6 clubbie and my friend's "supposedly" beating an M109R :O LMAO.

I've grown up driving Jap turbos and love the rush of turbo cars but I'd take an LSx over a Ford 6 turbo anyday. Horses for courses in my opinion...

[SUZUKI MALISHA]

First of all your beloved track weapon the "R" spec got pumped by a shitty arse Chrysler 300 around the track in the latest comparo (hate to say it but it told you so), and when has anyone on here denied the tuning ability bang for buck of the Turbo 6? Power being equal the Ford/FPV will get spanked everytime, both on road and track by the Holden/HSV equivelant.

Now isn't it past your bed time?

who denies it???...haha don't make me laugh. You deny it. All you do is disrespect my opinion and the ability of the fords in question. The OP asked which is better in UNOPENED form..xr6t or ls1. No mention of GTs and or equalizing measures that you talk about. The fact is dollar for dollar...KW for KW..their turbo spanks our ls1 and that's a fact.
And if tuners are defaulting to a certain engine for their top power needs....explain how that doesn't equate to some level of street king.