Supercharged HSV?

[bouka]

I don't think you represent the regular HSV sort of buyer bouka.
I don't think I got it wrong at all. HSV, like all BUSINESSES, are in the business of making money. No point making a local car of utter brilliance if the tossers with the full wallets just go "I'd rather one with a Euro badge on the bonnet for 10K more"...
Maybe you'll see my point one day. I hope HSV do many things, including the release of supercharged engines, but I also see that most buyers just don't care about the locals anymore.

I have purchased many new HSV cars. When someone had the balls to produce something special locally (the sc FPV), I bought that. Both brands are PERFORMANCE new car manufacturers and their entire existence revolves around that fact. I can afford the euros but CHOOSE to buy Aussie.

How the fark do I not represent a regular HSV (or local product) buyer? Without people like me (and many others) they wouldn't exist. And people like me (and many others) will stop (many have, as evident by some of the replies) if they don't build what we want. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.

Many buyers still care about the locals. The ones that are vocal and criticize are the ones who (usually) care the most.

Oh, and the GTS of old will return. And for the slow, it will be be supercharged and it will be fricken brilliant.

[C4B]

I have purchased many new HSV cars. When someone had the balls to produce something special locally, I bought that. Both brands are PERFORMANCE new car manufacturers and their entire existence revolves around that fact. I can afford the euros but CHOOSE to buy Aussie.

How the fark do I not represent a regular HSV (or local product) buyer? Without people like me (and many others) they wouldn't exist. And people like me (and many others) will stop (many have, as evident by some of the replies) if they don't build what we want. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.

Many buyers still care about the locals. The ones that are vocal and criticize are the ones who (usually) care the most.

Oh, and the GTS of old will return. And for the slow, it will be be supercharged and it will be fricken brilliant.

Don't stress it......

People who have never owned a HSV aren't really in a position to comment on what makes a regular HSV owner tick.... No more so than a person who works at the cafeteria at the Ferrari factory knows about what makes a Ferrari owner tick.

HSV badly needs a hero car....... Before it's too late!

[C4B]

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OMG..... The stereotype is proven!

[duke5700]

Seeing as the new emmissions regs are coming through and the LSA may or may not meet it..

I predict a 5 or 5.5L DI TT engine in GM's future for their hero car. Seeing as there is a level of bullshit in the thread, I just thought I would add my baseless warbalings to the thread.

Easy to package, low slung for better weight distribution, gentler on drivetrain, froff factor for fanboys of atleast 17 out of 10.

[VYSHSV8]

The world has changed. Most of today's kids would rather have "cool" tech toys than a seriously uncool "old school" hot car like their dad wanted.

All my kids want Camaros and Stingrays as they say and call them Muscle cars, but they will have to put up with Vy, VZ and possibly a VESs handed down to the for starters

They love the muscle car era

[mickeyVX350]

Since Mark Skaife was bundled out, I BELIEVE (just me!) that HSV have lost that connection to the "harder, edgier, racier" setup. Having recently read a Mark Skaife bio, he was heavily invovled with HSV and the development of the VT and VX, from test driving them, providing feedback, right through to listening to the exhaust options. I never knew this, but to align that with a lot of comments in here about "the VX was the last of the hard HSV's", it seems like there may be something in that. I believe that he was bundled out pre E-series? Mark certainly knows sports cars, and what a driver wants. If HSV want some connection to the race car, and to make the buyer feel like a weekend V8SC driver, perhaps they need to employ this level of development again to reaffirm what they are about. For sure, keep the luxo models like the Senator, but perhaps some real input into the racey models!

[C4B]

Since Mark Skaife was bundled out, I BELIEVE (just me!) that HSV have lost that connection to the "harder, edgier, racier" setup. Having recently read a Mark Skaife bio, he was heavily invovled with HSV and the development of the VT and VX, from test driving them, providing feedback, right through to listening to the exhaust options. I never knew this, but to align that with a lot of comments in here about "the VX was the last of the hard HSV's", it seems like there may be something in that. I believe that he was bundled out pre E-series? Mark certainly knows sports cars, and what a driver wants. If HSV want some connection to the race car, and to make the buyer feel like a weekend V8SC driver, perhaps they need to employ this level of development again to reaffirm what they are about. For sure, keep the luxo models like the Senator, but perhaps some real input into the racey models!

Back in the VTII / VX days, GTS owners got to do a drive day with Mark Skaife. The one I did they had a sting red Commodore Exec (ie: a hire car) and every exercise of the day was initially demonstrated by Skaife in the hire car. It was amazing to see the difference between a stocker and the GTS's in the hands of a professional driver.

I can assure you the way Skaife drove the sometimes practically brand new GTSs was something to behold.... Drive it like you stole it doesn't even begin to describe it!

I'll have to dig out my old video of the day because the footage would leave many in awe of what the now 13 year old GTSs were truly capable of in the hands of the man that contributed to their setup.....

[vyls1wa]

Most Car manufactures have a flagship car, Nissan, Toyota, Porsche ( how's my boxers you see) its not about selling 100 cars, it has a flow on affect, it's marketing, you buy a hsv cause its just that little more special than your SS, but knowing you have a car that relates to a bigger badder monster. Just look at all the skyline gts turbos, every idiot thought he had a GTR.


Ohh and seeing as we're viewed as people that aren't in that market, I am, I'm just waiting for the vf clubsport, if it aren't something special, I'll buy a SS

[Pickles]

Mark Skaife?....Disagree......He was just a "pawn" in the scheme of things.
If ya wanna know the name of the person who was, and IS, and always will be,... "MR HSV",......remember the name "CRENNAN"......Things changed bigtime, when he "left".
Cheers, Pickles.

[heavychevy]

I'll have to dig out my old video of the day because the footage would leave many in awe of what the now 13 year old GTSs were truly capable of in the hands of the man that contributed to their setup.....

Would like to see it when you find it

[blackvussii]

Looks like its finally official
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...-1226629539865

[Ghosn]

Looks like its finally official
http://www.news.com.au/national-news...-1226629539865

I wouldn't exactly call that official. Firstly the pics are poorly chopped and the article has mostly speculation, stuff we have already covered in this thread.

[blackvussii]

Yeah pics look pretty rubbish, usual artists impression but info sounds right.

[Hos]

Written by The Other Muppet too. Time will tell.

[Pickles]

Well, that's "official" enough for me.....I reckon it's "ON".
Cheers, Pickles.