VF SS/SSV Sportswagon not available - Order Possible??

[Marco]

That is one thing that has really peeved me off about the later commodores, no individuality. I would love to see the days where you could option up any model with almost anything available to holden aka 6spd in VT exec 5.7.

Yeah. It's a little thing but it's annoying. Drove my Dad nuts a few years back as what he really wanted was a sedan with the 3.6 litre engine but a light interior. He didn't want to spend Calais V money; a Berlina with the 3.6 litre engine would have been just the thing. In his case he ended up buying a Calais and putting up with the black interior, so I suppose Holden might have a point about that, in that customers will buy something else from their range.

I can understand the point about production line complexity when your factory is flat out making cars to meet demand, but that's not exactly been Holden's problem of late...

[MickStephens]

Hey dont get me wrong. When we get a Manual V8 Wagon in we sell it for good money. Just takes forever to find a buyer in our used car lot.

Towing capacity is important to a lot of people and most of them only go by what the spec sheet says. A manual V8 wagon can tow 1600kg where an auto can tow 2100kg.

All those cashed up oldies who want to tow caravans go for the auto as the manual LEGALLY cant tow the brand new 1800kg caravan they just put a deposit on also.

[farkford]

Could be simple supply and demand, if enough people want a manual surely they could do a run it's not like they haven't got the bits.

... farkford

[JimmyXR6T04]

What sort of issues do the autos have with an aftermarket exhaust?

... farkford

More likely to drone due to AFM, especially the wagons.

[Marco]

Hey dont get me wrong. When we get a Manual V8 Wagon in we sell it for good money. Just takes forever to find a buyer in our used car lot.

Towing capacity is important to a lot of people and most of them only go by what the spec sheet says. A manual V8 wagon can tow 1600kg where an auto can tow 2100kg.

All those cashed up oldies who want to tow caravans go for the auto as the manual LEGALLY cant tow the brand new 1800kg caravan they just put a deposit on also.

I wouldn't have thought cashed up oldies would buy manuals in any event - but my thinking is that manual SS wagons would be bought generally by family guys. If the Sportwagon had been available when I bought my SS, I would have bought a manual one and would definitely have at least considered buying one when I need a new family car in a few years' time. Holden's decision not to offer a manual one effectively blows the field wide open and allows competing vehicles in - as if I have to have an automatic, which I don't enjoy driving, then I might as well cast the net wider to include other cars which I won't enjoy driving such as medium-large SUVs.

[Number55]

Glad to see Im not the only one who is frustrated by this! To make it worse I have to pay an extra 2k on what i would have paid for the wagon to have the (dis)pleasure of a sludgebox

[MickStephens]

Holden's decision not to offer a manual one effectively blows the field wide open

Not really. Ford have no hope. Toyota dont make wagons RWD, Nissan? Nope, Mazda? Nope.... Who would offer a manual V8 wagon? From memory, not many and not many are planing to. Shame really. they are a good thing in the used car market.

[Marco]

What I mean is that if I have to have an auto then I will look at other auto wagons, including ones that don't have V8s. I might buy an auto V8 wagon; but because I don't enjoy driving autos maybe I will decide instead to go the whole hog and buy, say, a Toyota Kluger instead.

[jaykay]

What I mean is that if I have to have an auto then I will look at other auto wagons, including ones that don't have V8s. I might buy an auto V8 wagon; but because I don't enjoy driving autos maybe I will decide instead to go the whole hog and buy, say, a Toyota Kluger instead.

http://www.greatwallmotors.com.au/de...FQs5pgodHkQA4A there you go...

[Marco]

Where do I sign?

[cashie]

Only reason is money. Building one gearbox option will allow quicker production times and less tooling which means less production costs which equal more profit.

We hardly sold Manual V8 wagons as the towing capacity is crap compared to the auto.

No way, the line already switches between auto and manual for the utes and sedans, how is doing a manual wagon going to slow the production? Tooling, surely this also already exists as this section of the car would be common on all body types. I reckon I'm lucky to see 10-20% of VE Wagons with a towbar, can't see that being the reason.

[chocco]

Not that I will be getting rid of it any time soon but looks like the missus will be hanging onto the SSV G8 manual wagon for a while longer , 2010 with 25k on the clock !!

[sjhugh]

Not really. Ford have no hope. Toyota dont make wagons RWD, Nissan? Nope, Mazda? Nope.... Who would offer a manual V8 wagon? From memory, not many and not many are planing to. Shame really. they are a good thing in the used car market.

The boys and girls who currently own a manual VE wagon would be laughing.

In time it must be a good thing for the used value.

If I had one to sell, I’d definitely be asking a premium over the price of an auto.

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[El Narros]

What a joke, I just bought a brand new Mazda 6 wagon, great car but its a bit small for my liking and has no guts. I am pretty keen on a SS Wagon manual but thanks to Holden I am no longer in the market. No way in the world would I buy a V8 in auto.

[jaykay]

Just read a VF SSV wagon pulled 216rwkw stock !! So 20% driveline loss from 270fwkw...

Oh and it was an auto !!!