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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by GTS LSA View Post
    Yeah I wouldnt mind a comparison either, I thought I had read that auto but manually changing was the quickest, but that may have just been an opinion also
    I know people who should be pretty good at picking change points who've found their 400m times have improved by up to 0.3 just leaving the A6 in drive compared to manual shifting.

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    ^ yeah I dont doubt it, if the auto is decent it should beat maual shifting I thought, though each car type is different I guess

    As said earlier, we need some real world testing
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    In today's Carsguide in the Herald Sun's GTS vs E63 AMG comparison they say "We're assured the GTS auto is slightly quicker than the manual. We believe it, especially as the manual needs to grab second just before it passes the 100 mark."
    Yep, sounds like the auto will be the numbers car (as expected).
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonky View Post
    I know people who should be pretty good at picking change points who've found their 400m times have improved by up to 0.3 just leaving the A6 in drive compared to manual shifting.
    3 attempts at that little trick proved woesome in the big cammed VE Maloo….forget the 11.7 , shot it straight back into low 12’s with a 6mph loss each and every time.
    Said Senator previously mentioned, admittedly only the one attempt , saw a 14.09 pass at 104mph…
    ................You simply cannot outshift the auto .be it 4A or 6A imho , Oddly enough the Senators fastest time came locked in Drive , with traction Control on.
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    Older forum members here will well recall *Chillys* shocking ¼ mile times until the truth came to light once his daugher drove down the 1/4 with the car locked in *3*…instant full second pickup ..Chilly finally being convinced that self shifting was not the way to travel .

    After that nasty little habbit was established, we then saw the wee cam only VX knocking out high 11’s in full street trim ....whilst the good gentlemen in question was reading the Redbank times and supping on a cup of coffee in his left hand…there is a video of it here on the forum .

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    I hope the wheels story is indicative of the real GTS because if it is then we are going to be very happy. I think wait for a few cars to be tested before jumping on the sprint times. In any case the way wheels describes its twisty bits performance is what I am looking for.

    The article suggests that launch control struggles with damp conditions and a totally manual approach was better. By the way 80 - 120 in 5.6 seconds in 5th is pretty fair with 2.8 seconds in 3rd. 0 - 60 in 2.5 seconds same as the AMG. From there the AMG has the edge. This is backed up by the Winton data with the GTS carrying higher corner speeds in 5 of 8 corners but the AMG has much higher straight speeds. Lap time to the GTS by 0.2 seconds in a 1:40.9. I have no feel for that number.
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    If memory serves, the FG GT-P and the old GTS did Winton in around 1:43.9X - 1:44.XX

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by markone2 View Post
    Older forum members here will well recall *Chillys* shocking ¼ mile times until the truth came to light once his daugher drove down the 1/4 with the car locked in *3*…instant full second pickup ..Chilly finally being convinced that self shifting was not the way to travel .

    After that nasty little habbit was established, we then saw the wee cam only VX knocking out high 11’s in full street trim ....whilst the good gentlemen in question was reading the Redbank times and supping on a cup of coffee in his left hand…there is a video of it here on the forum .
    .... that has to be one of the top 10 all-time classic LS1 forum posts for sure! Chilly was good value, no doubt about it.
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulture View Post
    Yep, sounds like the auto will be the numbers car (as expected).
    I think, in a straight line, the auto may have the edge, but another member has quite correctly mentioned "the twisty bits", & in those situations, like John Bowe's Winton drive, I reckon the manual may have the edge.
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    So much anticipation..so many scenarios...must be killing the GTS owners to be....

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by jkgmh View Post
    So much anticipation..so many scenarios...must be killing the GTS owners to be....
    What's killing me is when mine is due to arrive I won't be in the country. It will sit lonely somewhere waiting for me!

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Finally got a chance to get down to the newsagent today to get the Wheels mag. Then had to sit through 4 hours of kids sport and parties/weekend stuff

    Sitting here watching V8's, with a cold Corona, reading about the GTS.... Life is good

    GTS well and truly did itself proud vs Germany's best... I am very impressed... Stiil like to see some dry weather running and some owners feedback, but regardless of that, I am 110% happy with my decision to buy one, the anticipation is killing me....waiting.....waiting......waiting
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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by mjrandom View Post
    What's killing me is when mine is due to arrive I won't be in the country. It will sit lonely somewhere waiting for me!
    Not an issue, I’ll happily volunteer to pick it up for you, and given it’s a brand new model ..I’ll even waiver my usual fee for supplying a best of 3 base line runs at Willowbank ,



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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    Funny I have been inundated with offers to "keep it clean for you while you are away". A mate of mine was going to get me some money back offering drives in the country! Thanks for the offer though I think it can sit in Melbourne or the dealership.

    Given that the wheels car was a silver manual I guess it is a production car and not a mule and it seems that the performance is fairly similar to the first two cars. I was expecting Camaro like figures, looks like that wont happen. Doesn't detract from the car that I have ordered or make me second guess the decision. Just wondering why the lower than expected numbers????

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

    [QUOTE=mjrandom;2090901]Funny I have been inundated with offers to "keep it clean for you while you are away". A mate of mine was going to get me some money back offering drives in the country! Thanks for the offer though I think it can sit in Melbourne or the dealership.

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    I can tell with a little Authority , ( I was watching ) last week at Willowbank a NEW Stock looking + Stock sounding NEW Comaro smashed the traps in the 11”s…….Tuned by whom ??????...
    Does anyone here Know ?

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    Re: Supercharged HSV? - Part 3

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