Vic/NSW Rego

[storm vy]

Okay so an update, or lack there of! due to a ridiculously busy couple of weeks at work, and the fact that for whatever reason i had in my head that i had 28 days to contest the fine when in reality i only had 21! it seems i have missed doing anything about it by a few days, so looks like i'm up the proverbial creek!
So obviously now i have no other option other than to just pay the fine and move on. I think i'm more p!ssed that i now won't know what the outcome would've been than having to actually pay the fine! My apologies to everyone who was interested in the outcome and appreciate every bodies opinions.
Cheers, Nick

[storm vy]

Another update!
I was in the RMS the other day to renew my license and raised the question with them, they informed me that if the car is kept in Victoria then yes the car Is to be registered in victoria therefore i was fully within the law. So both Vicroads and RMS have informed me i have done nothing wrong.
I have applied for a review even though i was late, its all online now and still allowed me to do it, so whilst i expect to get knocked back because i wasn't within the 21 days it was still worth a try. Will find out in the next 21 days i guess!

[storm vy]

Okay so heard back from them today with the following..

I originally supplied a scan of the rego papers but obviously want proof it was payed. Spoke to vicroads today and once again were surprisingly helpfull, whilst they could'nt give me a copy of the reciept there and then, has to go through melbourne for whatever reason, but he sent off an email to chase it up for me and should have some sort of proof of payment in the mail soon. So i'll send that off and see how we go!

[Micks]

sounds promising, hope it goes well. Noticed the Dudes name "Mick Mioduszewski" what a mouthful!! No it's not me either!

[Woodchukka]

Thanks for the update. Sounds like they are going to make it as time consuming as they can so entice you to just cough it up.

[Blown 454 AWD]

My view ....

He's full of shit!

Bought the Adventra in Vic, brand new with a Starr Blower Kit fitted new.

Flew down and drove it back.

For the first 3 years it was Vic registered, no problems. (and stopped several times in that 3 years with no issues)

One of the times I was pull up I was 32 Klm over in a 60 (oppps, but easy in short blown bursts)

Coppa said magic over 30 that's a walk, I said 28 klms over sounds better (with a nice smile)

He said, gimme your licence, want back to his car, came back a minute later and said,

you're a bloody local, yes I said, he said vic plate will get you booked for most stops here,

gave me a ticket for 15 klms over and told me to be good, there was no drama about where it was

registered apart from being treated like a Mexican.

And this was in Sydney, no boarder excuse.

Cheers

Steve

[Ned_Flanders666]

Good luck with it all. Are you sure it was HWP though? GD's do run RBT sites too. PM me the callsigns of the vehicles if you want.

Mate, I am ex NSW highway patrol. There is nothing stopping me from having a car registered in every State on my New South Wales licence. Your incident is one of those grey areas but as stated by the RMS there guidelines for registration are not law. Licences on the other hand have the same guidelines and are written into law. You are more than justified in taking this matter to Court. My advice would be to first write a letter to the RMS asking for the matter to be reviewed. If this returns a negative result then elect to have the matter heard in Court.

This is the big problem and why I am now EX HWP, ex police in fact, years ago highway cops knew the traffic legislation inside out. Then the police relaxed their entry requirements into the HWP and every try hard wannabe who wanted to drive a pursuit car wound up in HWP. They have as much knowledge of traffic legislation as a chef does of being a diesel mechanic.

Good luck with it

Really? Most of the cops like that are the ones that end up in court and lose. Never effected me. The tryhard wannabes end up smashing their cars and get taken off the road. For the most part people in HWP these days do it for the RTA overtime ($$$)

[Micks]

Good luck with it all. Are you sure it was HWP though? GD's do run RBT sites too. PM me the callsigns of the vehicles if you want.



Really? Most of the cops like that are the ones that end up in court and lose. Never effected me. The tryhard wannabes end up smashing their cars and get taken off the road. For the most part people in HWP these days do it for the RTA overtime ($$$)

Normally talk in riddles?

[GTSLOVER]

Good luck with it all. Are you sure it was HWP though? GD's do run RBT sites too. PM me the callsigns of the vehicles if you want.



Really? Most of the cops like that are the ones that end up in court and lose. Never effected me. The tryhard wannabes end up smashing their cars and get taken off the road. For the most part people in HWP these days do it for the RTA overtime ($$$)

Yep. Really. Like I said. It was one of the reasons I left. I was HWP way before ICV, ANPR and all that other crap that made coppers lazy. Back in the days when we used to have to go and hunt for crooks not sit on the side of the road and wait for them to come to us. I dont tolerate fools easily. Unfortunately the majority of HWP is now full of fools who know nothing about the legislation let alone vehicles themselves. I took a traffic supervisors job and spent more time mentoring supposedly trained highway operators than I did mentoring general duties. What finished me in the cops was chronic PTSD and I took an unopposed medical discharge but the loss of the old school HWP blokes and the introduction of the new school losers certainly helped me realise that the HWP and the coppers was going downhill fast. This new lot would not make a HWP coppers ring hole. Shout at them and call them an idiot for stuffing up the simplest thing and they cry to mummy. Guess thats what happens when academics run the academy, sorry it is a campus now, aye. PS. I still know what it is like. I have not been out that long, only since 2012 and for the majority of the decent HWP coppers the RTA OT was just a bonus, not the primary reason for joining. That is nothing now anyway compared to what it was ten years ago. If you only joined HWP for the overtime you would have been one of those I did not get on with. There for the wrong reasons

[HSVREDSLED]

Yep. Really. Like I said. It was one of the reasons I left. I was HWP way before ICV, ANPR and all that other crap that made coppers lazy. Back in the days when we used to have to go and hunt for crooks not sit on the side of the road and wait for them to come to us. I dont tolerate fools easily. Unfortunately the majority of HWP is now full of fools who know nothing about the legislation let alone vehicles themselves. I took a traffic supervisors job and spent more time mentoring supposedly trained highway operators than I did mentoring general duties. What finished me in the cops was chronic PTSD and I took an unopposed medical discharge but the loss of the old school HWP blokes and the introduction of the new school losers certainly helped me realise that the HWP and the coppers was going downhill fast. This new lot would not make a HWP coppers ring hole. Shout at them and call them an idiot for stuffing up the simplest thing and they cry to mummy. Guess thats what happens when academics run the academy, sorry it is a campus now, aye. PS. I still know what it is like. I have not been out that long, only since 2012 and for the majority of the decent HWP coppers the RTA OT was just a bonus, not the primary reason for joining. That is nothing now anyway compared to what it was ten years ago. If you only joined HWP for the overtime you would have been one of those I did not get on with. There for the wrong reasons

I have mixed feelings.

I see waaaaay more HWP on the roads today than years ago. I do know that a few years ago they were used by LACs doing more GD jobs and now they are under traffic yatta yatta, and I know that 90% of the time they are doing ANPR stuff, but it does not detract from the fact that I/we see double the HWP than a few years ago. The question has to be asked. Does 'old school' HWP activities such as hiding behind bridges and bushes and pinging motorist do more to reduce road trauma than being extreme high vis doing ANPR stuff with occasional LIDAR out the window?

[GTSLOVER]

I have mixed feelings.

I see waaaaay more HWP on the roads today than years ago. I do know that a few years ago they were used by LACs doing more GD jobs and now they are under traffic yatta yatta, and I know that 90% of the time they are doing ANPR stuff, but it does not detract from the fact that I/we see double the HWP than a few years ago. The question has to be asked. Does 'old school' HWP activities such as hiding behind bridges and bushes and pinging motorist do more to reduce road trauma than being extreme high vis doing ANPR stuff with occasional LIDAR out the window?

Studies have been done that say high vis does nothing. The UK and other European police conducted them. From my experience high vis actually causes more accidents as everyone slows down to rubber neck what the Police are doing, lose concentration then crash and cause major traffic delays. I would rather them sitting behind a tree and getting some idiot on an over 30 or over 45 rather than that heinous crime of unregistered uninsured which they are only doing as it is a huge revenue raiser for the Government. The Police are supposed to be independant of the government but believe me they are not. The commish has his tongue so far up the premier it is not funny. The only reason ANPR is even around is because of the huge amount of revenue it can raise with the least amount of effort expended to make it. At the start ANPR was a static exercise like stationary RBT but even then the powers that be at Traffic Services were looking at ways to get it mobile. Finally they did and what you see now is what you get.

When I was supervising our idiot boss at the LAC I was at wanted HWP hi vis at one of our trouble intersections for collisions. That will drop it down he said. I told him it would not but he wanted it done so I tasked them there for two weeks. In that two weeks collisions at that intersection rose by 25 percent .

[BLACK 346]

rather than that heinous crime of unregistered uninsured .

So are you saying that unreg and uninsured is not bad?

[GTSLOVER]

So are you saying that unreg and uninsured is not bad?

Put into perspective. It is not as bad as someone doing an over 45. Simple really. Go and see a few bad prangs as a result of speed and you will soon think the same way

[HSVREDSLED]

OFF TOPIC ALERT.

I must not be the norm because I know in recent months I have been more aware of my speed due to the huge increase in HWP I have seen.

Also ANPR is not only used for unreg/uninsured offences. Many a good crook has been caught by such technology.

[XUV]

So are you saying that unreg and uninsured is not bad?

Put into perspective. It is not as bad as someone doing an over 45. Simple really. Go and see a few bad prangs as a result of speed and you will soon think the same way

the logic being that the unreg'd will go slower as not to attract attention.

and just touching on the modern day cop and their policing,

I think age has a lot to do with it, they should put the min age up to 23,
coz if you come out of school and straight to the academy at 18-19,
where you're taught to think cop and handed a gun, then you have no life skills to base your discretion on.

Live a little and see why the people hurt.