New home wiring ideas

[macca_779]

We've just had Foxtel installed at our current place as well as at our previous place and they never got in the roof. All cabling was run externally.

That's cause they're lazy kents Wonk.

[shaness8]

Have Foxtel they had to get into the roof to run cable from the dish to the box.

Once he done his bit i started running it to other rooms using cat 5e, works a treat can watch Foxtel in 3 rooms and even change the channel's.

[jc_sv8]

You would have to be a complete turkey to damage A/C ducting... seriously you can almost lie on it.

It's not the turkeys I'm worried about it's the monkeys swinging from it!
Don't you remember the kind of guys that performed the installation of the "home insulation scam"! They now work as cablers for Foxtel...

Those that lived

[duke5700]

Thats the risk you face when you use un qualified monkeys.. people looking to make a buck and oversight that was non-existent, end up with people dead.

Ask any real tradesman whats in a house roof and he could probably list the possible hazards quite easily. Even old cabling or VIR, perished insulation, mice/rats, broken solid core... no RCDs that took me 30 secs to realise it might not be a good idea to put conductive insulation in a roof. I don't even do residential work..

It's not the turkeys I'm worried about it's the monkeys swinging from it!
Don't you remember the kind of guys that performed the installation of the "home insulation scam"! They now work as cablers for Foxtel...

Those that lived

[jc_sv8]

Exactly!! We've got plenty of qualified sparkies in the family and some of the work they have seen would make a great TV show.

Years ago when I had Foxtel installed I told the install guy that we had conduit running down an interior wall so please run your cable through that from the roof.
His response was that they weren't allowed to so he ran external conduit down the exterior of the interior wall and it looked shite.
I removed it and ran it through the conduit and removed all trace of their crap work.

[Micks]

You would have to be a complete turkey to damage A/C ducting... seriously you can almost lie on it.

Yes you can lie on the flexes but not so on BTO's & other fittings like zone assy's etc!!

[bush_basha]

I managed to pick up a old but basically new second hand switch,
It's a gs724t v3h2 netgear prosafe. It's a managed one but because I know nothing about them I'm hoping and the manual says, that I can just plug it in and away I go. I'm hoping to learn more about it as I go along.

Anyways what I would like to know is, I have nbn, do I come out of the nbn box into my ISP provided router/wifi device and then plug that into my switch? Do I just plug it into port one or any of the 24 ports and then away I go plugging in the rest to the patch panel? Or is there a separate port where I plug the router as I can't see one. Though if I plug it into one of the 24 ports then that only leaves me with 23 to go.

[C4B]

I managed to pick up a old but basically new second hand switch,
It's a gs724t v3h2 netgear prosafe. It's a managed one but because I know nothing about them I'm hoping and the manual says, that I can just plug it in and away I go. I'm hoping to learn more about it as I go along.

Anyways what I would like to know is, I have nbn, do I come out of the nbn box into my ISP provided router/wifi device and then plug that into my switch? Do I just plug it into port one or any of the 24 ports and then away I go plugging in the rest to the patch panel? Or is there a separate port where I plug the router as I can't see one. Though if I plug it into one of the 24 ports then that only leaves me with 23 to go.

The NBN box is purely just internet out the wall. Your WIFI/Router dishes out local IP addresses to anything you connect to your local network (amongst other things). The switch is like the network equivalent of a power board (in very basic terms). Run a patch lead from your WIFI/Router to the switch (any port) and then plug all your other devices into the switch.

[bush_basha]

The NBN box is purely just internet out the wall. Your WIFI/Router dishes out local IP addresses to anything you connect to your local network (amongst other things). The switch is like the network equivalent of a power board (in very basic terms). Run a patch lead from your WIFI/Router to the switch (any port) and then plug all your other devices into the switch.

Thanks mate, that sums it up perfectly. Makes sense saying the switch is like a network power board.

[C4B]

Thanks mate, that sums it up perfectly. Makes sense saying the switch is like a network power board.

It's not as relevant these days because they've pretty much gone the way of the Video Shop but there used to be "hubs" as well as "switches".

The main difference between the two is that a hub would receive a packet of data and re-broadcast it to all other ports because it had no knowledge of what device was connected to what port. I guess you could say it almost worked like a UHF CB Repeater.

A Switch on the other hand knows what device it connected to what port so if you sent a print job to your printer when the packets of data hit the switch they are directed only to the port the printer is connected to. Less like a CB Repeater and more like a phone call.

Don't get too caught up in the whole "managed" switch idea. Most of the time we only use the management console to switch things like Power over Ethernet on/off and mundane things like that. You can control port speeds for individual ports etc. but most of the time even managed switches get configured and then forgotten.

[bush_basha]

Cool thanks for that explanation, makes sense. it's good to know that the managed side won't be needed all the time so I can just plug and go for now. Cheers

[bush_basha]

With cat6 cable for internet, can it be run off the back of another cat 6 plug in a parallel circuit making 2 plugs in the same line?
When the data people have done our phone line that's what they have done, they have put 2 points in the garage and 1 in family room but it's just connected to the one plug in the middle basically as a joiner.
I'm going to need another internet point installed and I'm wondering can they just take it off the back of another plug and run that to the location I want it.
There won't be anything plugged into the other plugs it's just to piggy back off as it's going to be the main line I'm just wondering if I'll need new wall plates before someone comes around.

[Micks]

With cat6 cable for internet, can it be run off the back of another cat 6 plug in a parallel circuit making 2 plugs in the same line?
When the data people have done our phone line that's what they have done, they have put 2 points in the garage and 1 in family room but it's just connected to the one plug in the middle basically as a joiner.
I'm going to need another internet point installed and I'm wondering can they just take it off the back of another plug and run that to the location I want it.
There won't be anything plugged into the other plugs it's just to piggy back off as it's going to be the main line I'm just wondering if I'll need new wall plates before someone comes around.

Can physically be done but not recommended for internet. Daisy chaining phone lines is acceptable.

[C4B]

With cat6 cable for internet, can it be run off the back of another cat 6 plug in a parallel circuit making 2 plugs in the same line?
When the data people have done our phone line that's what they have done, they have put 2 points in the garage and 1 in family room but it's just connected to the one plug in the middle basically as a joiner.
I'm going to need another internet point installed and I'm wondering can they just take it off the back of another plug and run that to the location I want it.
There won't be anything plugged into the other plugs it's just to piggy back off as it's going to be the main line I'm just wondering if I'll need new wall plates before someone comes around.

So are you just wanting to join to an existing cable?

[bush_basha]

Basically what they have done is, where the nbn is they have a phone point and a Internet point, to plug from the nbn to there then along the same wall they have another phone point and internet point to plug in the phone and router.
I'm wanting to have a Internet point from the nbn point to my data cabinet to connect my router there. So I'm wondering if they have to change a the wall plate or if they can just daisy off the original router one and into the data cabinet. But I won't be using the original router one as it'll now be in the data cabinet. If that makes sense?
Or would it be easier to just get them to redo a whole new connection all again instead of daisy chaining.