Front tyre advice for HSV Senator

[Senator2015]

Hi Smitty,

Thanks for that. My feelings are mutual.

[Senator2015]

Hi Red CV8 R,

It appears that perhaps the Contis are not as great as they might have been before.

[Senator2015]

Hi QIKMIK,

Yes its daily driver, and most of its life has been on the M5, thus, the reason that at 27K they have 4mm of tread left. Also the backs are about the same if not more. All are original tyres.

[Brett240]

in my opinion the contis are junk for the reasons already listed.

loud and hard once they are worn. happened to my Gen f tourer, and two other Gen Fs in the family.

we all run michelin pilot supersports now. about the same price, but far quieter and dont lose their grip after 20 thousand kays like the contis do. id never go back to them.

[Brett240]

edit, wrong info

[Dickie Knee]

Moved this thread to another section as the Holden Q&A section is a moderated section that is currently in a long sleep!
I have heard some people liking the Bridgestone S001. No this is not a cash for comment deal!

I am up for front tyres on the Grange. I have had wheel alignment issues at the front and they are scrubbing out.

So I called the local Bridgestone near work to price the replacement Bridgestone S001 in 245/40/19 and was told these are no longer available and I need to go to Potenza RE050A.

I used to sell Kumho's in a previous life so I think I will have to look at the Kumho's KU36 and a good wheel alignment

[Senator2015]

Just to give you an update:

- Conti technician inspected the tyres and was quite surprised how well they have worn. there was plenty of trad left on majority of the tyre except on the inside whee they were quite shallow. He stated that it appears that they have never been rotated. This was quite surprising to me as I had the car in for service no less than three times in as may Holden service centres. Looks as though if you want to have the cared looked after, you need to do it yourself.

- Conti customer service were quite good in offering me a discount on the replacements, but, I thought to try some of the advice given here and opted for Michelin Super Sports. yes, a bit exy, but, wow what a difference. very quiet, and very grippy in both wet and dry.

- Also was informed tat the camber needs to be somewhat reduced as HSV sets it to be quite aggressive.

Will see how I get on and definitely am going to rotate them every 5000km.

Thanks for all the advice, sincerely appreciate it.

[BLACK 346]

He stated that it appears that they have never been rotated.

Does the Senator not have staggered rims? ie 275 on rear and 245 on front?

[Micks]

I am up for front tyres on the Grange. I have had wheel alignment issues at the front and they are scrubbing out.

So I called the local Bridgestone near work to price the replacement Bridgestone S001 in 245/40/19 and was told these are no longer available and I need to go to Potenza RE050A.

I used to sell Kumho's in a previous life so I think I will have to look at the Kumho's KU36 and a good wheel alignment

Dick highly recommend the Kumhos use them on two of my rides & experience good grip & better life than the Bridgestones

[Smashfist]

Conti technician obviously has no idea what's going on. As mentioned you can't rotate tyres on a HSV.

You can reduce camber to get more out of the tyres but beware it will feel a lot more doughy in any spirited type driving as it will wallow when turning in instead of leaning over and hooking up.

I didn't rate the Kumho's last time I bought some. Really enjoying the RE003's at the moment on my ute but they are pricy and fairly soft. I don't expect more than 30,000kms out of them.

[Senator2015]

Thanks for your advice.

Interesting point re reduction in camber

[Senator2015]

Hi,

I did not go for Kumhos as I was told that they wear quite quickly, but, its interesting to learn what mileage people here are achieving out of them.

[Senator2015]

Hi,

To clarify; when they say to rotate the tyres, they mean to swap from side to side, thus they will rotate backwards to their previous position.

Yes, you obviously cannot rotate front to back and vice versa as they are staggered.

[Senator2015]

Does the Senator not have staggered rims? ie 275 on rear and 245 on front?

Hi,

Yes, they are staggered, now on the VF's, there are 255 on front and 275 on the rears.

[Smashfist]

Hi,

To clarify; when they say to rotate the tyres, they mean to swap from side to side, thus they will rotate backwards to their previous position.

Yes, you obviously cannot rotate front to back and vice versa as they are staggered.

Won't make much difference, either way on the front it's going to chew the inners with stock camber settings.