Filling 6L80E

[gaz05]

Great idea if GAry (Gaz05) is happy to do that

Yes, that shouldnt be a problem, if someone can send me one then we can go from there.

[Wonky]

OK, I've just spent a while doing various checks and measurements.

1. Standard pan and Caddy pan side by side. Surprisingly the Caddy pan is not much deeper than the standard pan on ours!! I did compare capacities and the standard pan holds exactly 4.5 litres and the Caddy one virtually exactly 6 litres.


2. To prove they are bolt up identical I stacked one inside the other. Unfortunately because I tried to take the pics from directly above to prove the holes lined up you can't see that they're stacked one inside the other but take my word they are. I've combined two pics side by side - standard pan on top on left and Caddy pan on top on right. Exactly the same shape/size and if you compare bolt holes they're identical.


3. I then compared filter depths - assuming the fittings are similar (I have NFI ) the Caddy pan filter sits about half an inch (approx 13mm) lower in pan. To measure depths I put the box one of the pans was in from edge to edge and measured down. Unfortunately with my disabilities it was difficult to hold everything and get a clear pic so the standard one is a bit blurry.

Standard

Caddy


You can also see where the extra depth comes from in the photo below.

[kayman]

thanks wonks thats some good comparisons there.

gaz (or anyone else more knowledgable than myself) from this information if you can tell, will a standard gearbox behave anybetter or will it still have the same flareing issues because of the oil movement?

edit: the caddy pan compared to the standard pan.

also can we drop the pan off the bottom without removing the gearbox?
GT-I9100

[Tre-Cool]

yes, pan and filter come out from underneith. no need to remove the trans.

[Wonky]

Hi Gary (Wonky)

Thanks for following this up. Just so I'm clear - the caddy pan fits as straight bolt up. Depth is similar to Gary (Gaz05) double pan weld up. But the filter will not sit on the bottom of the pan as per Gaz05's solution.

Regards, Dan

See above. The filter I assume will fit on the bottom but given the shape of the pan it possibly won't be as deep as gaz's.

not sure if this pan is the same model your looking at but the filters and pans for caddy models are cheep on this site + fright of course
http://www.newgmparts.com/partlocato...layCatalogid=0
all so here
http://www.partswebsite.com/simongmp...140&type=parts

Yep, given the price differences I was going to look into getting them from the USA but for the moment if people are interested get the Caddy pans locally because I am pretty sure I can negotiate a price that won't be much dearer than getting them from the USA and paying freight. No filters are available here in Australia now for the Caddy pan, but hopefully if I send one to gaz05 he can make an adapter/extender for it.

Yes, that shouldnt be a problem, if someone can send me one then we can go from there.

Yep, what I'll do is send the Caddy pan and the two normal pans up to you. I've sold the two normal pans to HEKYEH for less than they've cost me because he gave me his rear swaybar for free when he upgraded. One good turn deserves another. Given he is wanting to get well down into the 11s dragging he is only wanting the dual pan solution. You can work out what to charge him for the work you do on his stuff and same for mine.

[etrocket]

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com.../photo_11.html

Hope this link works. Circle d in the states have also upgraded filters

[HOLDAN]

Hi guys

Where are we up to now? Pretty keen to get this solution installed.

Regards, Dan

[HOLDAN]

Just found this one:
http://www.yourcovers.com/transpan_11025.php

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

Just found this one:
http://www.yourcovers.com/transpan_11025.php

i talked to them a while ago the deep pan wont have enough ground clearance as it off a suv
there an error in the description about the shallow pan it doesn't have any
extra capacity so they told me

[HOLDAN]

i talked to them a while ago the deep pan wont have enough ground clearance as it off a suv
there an error in the description about the shallow pan it doesn't have any
extra capacity so they told me

OK Thanks for that - scratch that off the list then.

Regards, Dan

[Dieselman]

Hello all,

Some very good info in this thread - good job to all involved

I may have missed it but what is the part number for the Caddy pan???

Cheers

Ben

[dusto]

what material is the stock pan made from?
would it be more adventagous to put even more baffeling in?

[Wonky]

Hi guys

Where are we up to now? Pretty keen to get this solution installed.

Regards, Dan

Hi Dan,

My Caddy pan plus HEKYEH's two normal pans are on their way up to gaz05 in northern Qld. I'm wanting him to see what's needed to make a normal filter fit in the Caddy pan - I'm guessing just an extension pipe similar to what he's made for his double pan. Given my car only goes to the drags once a year the Caddy pan with an extra 1.5 litres capacity and with the filter sitting down more into the oil will be perfect for me. I suspect only guys like HEKYEH with his blown VE who drag more regularly will need/want the double depth pan.

In the meantime I'm trying to negotiate a price for a bulk buy with the guys I used to work (indirectly) with at HSPO (basically Holden parts warehouse) to try to do better than the $100+ list price on the Caddy pan.

I'm also going to try a few US places to see if I can get the correct filter sent over to see how it compares.

Cheers,
Gary

[etrocket]

Wonky - would the caddy filter already be lower from factory because of the deeper pan?

[Wonky]

I've never seen inside an actual pan with filter fitted so am guessing as to how the set up works, but I'm assuming there's a pipe connecting the actual filter to some point up higher in the transmission. The Caddy filter has a different part number to the one in the VE but I suspect knowing GM's need to minimise their part range that the actual filter itself is the same but the connecting pipe is longer by about half an inch as that's how much lower it is to the point in the pan where the filter connects.

All pure guesswork on my behalf, which is why I want to try to get the correct filter over from the US if I can.