Supercharged HSV this year?....I say yes.

[Martin_D]

Race "pedigree" only matters to some.

Normally the some writing the cheque to buy one....

[Angeldust]

all we hear is how quick the ford motor goes for 12 seconds. I would love to know its durability.

Nations Cup monaro had the c5R ls7, and even the Mosler had an ls1... both motors did well in 24hr races


For a pleb like me, it makes all cars with Lsx engines desirable.

[planetdavo]

Normally the some writing the cheque to buy one....

When you only produce a small quantity of something desirable you don't need to please "most"...just enough of the "some". Try to please almost everyone and you end up with cars like Camry. Champagne ones apparently go faster...
We all know your thoughts on track ability or race pedigree as being the be all and end all of car desirability Martin. Some agree with you, some don't.

[Martin_D]

Some agree with you, some don't.

Normally the ones spending the real money to buy the cars, not whacking off on the web
Its was always going to be hard to push a tarted up Omega with 100K margin on it in a price point where it was slowest in group - and so it proved to be.

[planetdavo]

Normally the ones spending the real money to buy the cars, not whacking off on the web
Its was always going to be hard to push a tarted up Omega in a price point where it was slowest in group - and so it proved to be.

Careful Martin, your anti-Holden bias is again showing on this what...a Holden forum. Why are you CONSTANTLY on this forum again, if it's not just to laugh at "stupid" Holden/HSV owners...?
So, by your reasoning, anyone that spent 90-100K on a VX or VY GTS when an Exec could be bought for under 30K is just as stupid as W427 buyers???
WRX/STi and Evo are just tarted up shopping cars that go faster too Martin, if you want to go down that path. The major difference is just that they come in an imported flavour you like.

[duke5700]

Bingo

The W427 whilst being a nice car, it wasn't built to be raced. Thus it lacks that 'hardness' you should of got for your 150K. All you got was like Martin said a car that was one of the slowest in the price bracket. Takes a real enthusiast or an idiot to buy into that.

It won't be remembered fondly as winning at Bathurst or at any race track. Young boys, who turn into successful men with money won't be wanting one because they didn't see it racing.

Normally the ones spending the real money to buy the cars, not whacking off on the web
Its was always going to be hard to push a tarted up Omega with 100K margin on it in a price point where it was slowest in group - and so it proved to be.

[Martin_D]

Price point Davo.
HSV priced the W427 directly in line with cars that whooped its ass.....and sold a handful of them to the loyal.
Put any spin on it you want, they are the facts.

An SS is was and always will be a better car for the dollar.
As you can see I am not anti-Holden, just anti silliness

[planetdavo]

Price point Davo.
HSV priced the W427 directly in line with cars that whooped its ass.....and sold a handful of them to the loyal.
Put any spin on it you want, they are the facts.

An SS is was and always will be a better car for the dollar.

Maybe you heard of the GFC. It caused one or two "issues" around the world, and people were pulling money out of everything.
I reckon I know who's putting up the "spin"...
Cars are a law of diminishing returns Martin...something you SHOULD be well aware of when you aren't doing your usual baiting kiddie stuff. SS will ALWAYS kill an expensive model above it for "value". But, and you've failed again here, cars aren't always about "value". Desirability opens many a wallet.
When you are bending people over and making vast money out of what your tuning business does, I'm pretty sure you don't face any moral dilemmas about your markup...

[duke5700]

When you are bending people over and making vast money out of what your tuning business does, I'm pretty sure you don't face any moral dilemmas about your markup...

Holden Spare Parts. Come on.

Enjoy your weekend boys I'm out of here.

[whitels1ss]

HSV haven't had any "dramatic", really "NEW" stuff for a while now.....I reckon the S/C engine will happen this year.
What do you guys think?
Cheers, Pickles.

Gee this is the original post on this thread, it amazes me how side tracked it has become.
Back on topic..... Let's hope so Pickles.

[planetdavo]

Bingo

The W427 whilst being a nice car, it wasn't built to be raced. Thus it lacks that 'hardness' you should of got for your 150K. All you got was like Martin said a car that was one of the slowest in the price bracket. Takes a real enthusiast or an idiot to buy into that.

It won't be remembered fondly as winning at Bathurst or at any race track. Young boys, who turn into successful men with money won't be wanting one because they didn't see it racing.

Hardly any cars that were priced in the W427's bracket had "race pedigree" either...
You seem to think that the market for buying unique classic metal will disappear simply because there are no race pedigree V8 cars produced in this era.
FALSE.
Just as there are different buying patterns in new cars from the good ol' days, there will be changes in the buying habits of classic aussie metal. The W427 is currently the most high performance, low volume special ever produced by Australia's most successful performance car brand. It WILL be desirable in the future, just not in the way YOU see the market.

[planetdavo]

Gee this is the original post on this thread, it amazes me how side tracked it has become.
Back on topic..... Let's hope so Pickles.

Was ALWAYS going to happen white, because any new s/charged HSV is the natural successor to the W427, a car already highly "judged" by many. There's only so long people can give a straight yes or a no on the original question posed.

[Martin_D]

Gee this is the original post on this thread, it amazes me how side tracked it has become.
Back on topic..... Let's hope so Pickles.

HSV Cruze......as Holden/HSV focus on small ecomonical Front Wheel Drive cars

[whitels1ss]

Was ALWAYS going to happen white, because any new s/charged HSV is the natural successor to the W427, a car already highly "judged" by many. There's only so long people can give a straight yes or a no on the original question posed.

No David, I would have thought that the point of the thread was about HSV's comeback to FPV
with bringing out a smaller, more efficient supercharged engine.

[planetdavo]

Holden Spare Parts. Come on.

Enjoy your weekend boys I'm out of here.

I knew that one would pop out (again) at some point...
I know what we make....and I could virtually promise that it's far less than your urban myth mentality thinks! Much less than a tuner makes out of those upgrades you rather happily pay for in fact.
Bye.