VE MY12 Thunder SS Cluster Colour at night

[dgp]

Does anyone have a picture or know what colour the cluster is at night on the SS cluster that has a grey background?
Do the numbers light up red or white?

[Malus]

From MY08-09 on they were white, red was too hard to focus on.

[dgp]

Thanks Malus

[vicarious]

From MY08-09 on they were white, red was too hard to focus on.

i thought the white came later than that, after complaints about the red at night and the white on grey dials were hard to read at day time.

[HsV_GTS_300]

Yeah ive got a 2011 ssv ute and can confirm its white

GT-I9100

[Wonky]

i thought the white came later than that, after complaints about the red at night and the white on grey dials were hard to read at day time.

I think white illumination at night started with MY9.5, possibly even MY9 at the earliest? My SSV sedan was March 07 built and had red illumination which was terrible for me as I'm very slightly red colour blind so had to really concentrate to read it. My MY9.5 ute has white and is a huuuuuuuuuuuge improvement!!

[DCV1NU]

Nah my MY09 ssv was still full red wonks, MY9.5 is when the white was introduce then with the series 2 i think Holden have slightly changed it alittle to more full white well that's what ive noticed anyway.

[Wonky]

You confirmed what I initially thought Boon i.e. MY9.5. I just added that it could even have been MY9 (but I doubted it) because the post I was initially replying to (indirectly) thought even MY8.

[Malus]

My MY9.5 SS had white on grey, was stupidly hard to see during the day with the dash lights off. The E3 HSV dash in my maloo on the other hand is perfect in all conditions, makes the S2 dashes look plain.

[dgp]

Thanks for all the replies guys.
I am picking up a Thunder SS next week and am concerned about the white on grey instrument cluster. I would hate the red though. My MY9.5 Sportwagon is white on blue with Nitrate so that looks fine.
I was thinking of putting a calais cluster into it.

[Malus]

I'm pretty sure a MY12 E3 HSV cluster will fit, you can pick up a new one off ebay for around $400. Most places with a Tech 2 can link it for you.

[Wonky]

I'm pretty sure a MY12 E3 HSV cluster will fit, you can pick up a new one off ebay for around $400. Most places with a Tech 2 can link it for you.

That may be correct for a MY12 SSV but I recommend checking into it before buying. After two attempts at having mine done interstate for my MY9.5 SSV it still isn't working due to the ABS set up the E3 dash goes looking for, even though it had been set correctly before being sent back to me. That was the only reason it was sent back up for further reprogramming after the first time and even though it was specifically set correctly the second time it still reverted back when plugged back in.

I am very confident the guy doing it knows what he is doing as he has done several others up there but needs the car to make it work. I would be a bit surprised if the MY12 cluster is different to the MY9.5 one (but it could be) and certainly the E3 cluster needs a hell of a lot more done to it to work in an MY9.5 than a Tech 2 can do. See posts #67 and #70 of www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?153635. Putting a non HSV dash in is easy with just a Tech 2 as fekason did with a Calais triple cluster in his SV6, but I'd be pretty sure the HSV ones are far trickier!!

The E3 dashes do look bloody awesome in though (had mine in for a day, just had no ABS or ESP) and can't wait till I finally have it working again!!

I've seen the E3 clusters for a lot less than $400 now - have seen Buy It Now prices in the lowish $200s now. I think SenatorMike now has some.

[SimonNQ]

I have purchased a Calais Cluster ( Series 2 ) to go into my Series 1 MY10 SSV. Took it into Holden, I even gave them the specific reference number for the Holden 'howto' program docs and they STILL could NOT get the Tech 2 to talk to the new cluster, charged me just over $180 and were not successful . So I have a brand new cluster here that when I get around to it is being sent down to South for programming.

Make sure either your local Holden dealer is switched on and not just a bunch of dumb kents or have it programmed elsewhere ready for fitment etc.

[Wonky]

Ouch!! $180 for no result thank you dealer.......

[dgp]

I have purchased a Calais Cluster ( Series 2 ) to go into my Series 1 MY10 SSV. Took it into Holden, I even gave them the specific reference number for the Holden 'howto' program docs and they STILL could NOT get the Tech 2 to talk to the new cluster, charged me just over $180 and were not successful . So I have a brand new cluster here that when I get around to it is being sent down to South for programming.

Make sure either your local Holden dealer is switched on and not just a bunch of dumb kents or have it programmed elsewhere ready for fitment etc.

Yep, the dealer i am buying my new car from won't even attempt doing the change.
I feel a bit sorry for people like that not willing to have a crack and try something new.