Pedders XA coilover shocks repeat failure?

[zorro]

Can I ask the question, why put coilovers on in the first place?

[SS317]

Can I ask the question, why put coilovers on in the first place?

I've had king SSSL, SSL and pedders springs in my Ve with and with out Monroe sports shocks and not one combo i tried came close the the pedders XA's for ride and handling, it's a shame that there is a drama with the rear shocks as apart from that I'd say there the best suspension setup I've used in a Ve.

[white lie]

Maybe you should have gone with a decent shock instead of Monroes.... Try Bilstein or Koni

[Wonky]

Can I ask the question, why put coilovers on in the first place?

I went with H&R coilovers on the ute because a) I got them for an excellent price b) they use quality Bilstein shocks with German springs and c) most importantly if I get done for too low there's no mucking around - just wind them back up. They give a firmish ride but far from harsh!

[SS317]

Maybe you should have gone with a decent shock instead of Monroes.... Try Bilstein or Koni

Had bilsteins and Konis in may walky and to be honest I wasn't all that impressed with either of them, or maybe it was just a VL thing, anyway I wanted to try something new in the ve and that's why I went for the XA's.

[BLACK 346]

I went with H&R coilovers on the ute because a) I got them for an excellent price b) they use quality Bilstein shocks with German springs and c) most importantly if I get done for too low there's no mucking around - just wind them back up. They give a firmish ride but far from harsh!

Not sure how it works in Vic, but pretty sure if you get done here in SA with them, it wont be just a matter of winding back up, you would be defected for having them, and made to remove them to clear the defect.

OP: I was seriously considering a set of the XA's, not so sure now. Thanks for sharing this with us though, hope they rectify it for you.

[Hos]

Not sure how it works in Vic, but pretty sure if you get done here in SA with them, it wont be just a matter of winding back up, you would be defected for having them, and made to remove them to clear the defect.

That is 100% correct. I had them in my VE SS ute when I bought it in Melbourne. Brought it to SA, tried to get rego and couldn't. Adjustable height coil overs are illegal in SA, unless they can be modified (read made to defeat their own purpose) to prevent them lowering below legal ride height for relevant vehicle. Know of one person who had an insurance claim rejected for having adjustable coil overs fitted, vehicle deemed unroadworthy.

[calais190]

OUt of curiosity, how low were the cars that the shocks failed?

Mine is like this and it's almost been two years - no signs of failing as yet...

On 20's:


On 19's:

[VRIIClubby]

Welcome to some of the best roads in NSW! lol...The stretches you travelled on are some of the crappiest roads I have ever seen in all my travels, and I live localish so travel them very regularly!

But, what a crock of shit from Pedders, obviously they arent up to taking the weight of the bigger cars, then to say you have them set to low is a complete crock of shit, I would be going to fair trading (if given this BS advise) and request that I paid this $XX to meet this spec, So now you make it like you agreed, if that means meeting the terms I paid for with another brand then so be it, your loss, not mine.

But, pedders is shit...I have always known this? Or have I always just been a brand snob? Looks like for a good reason,

I've had king SSSL, SSL and pedders springs in my Ve with and with out Monroe sports shocks and not one combo i tried came close the the pedders XA's for ride and handling, it's a shame that there is a drama with the rear shocks as apart from that I'd say there the best suspension setup I've used in a Ve.

Some of the best names in suspension right there to go up against the awesomeness of the Pedders brand, Those "branded" springs would make any shock feel like shit!

[calais190]

Welcome to some of the best roads in NSW! lol...The stretches you travelled on are some of the crappiest roads I have ever seen in all my travels, and I live localish so travel them very regularly!

But, what a crock of shit from Pedders, obviously they arent up to taking the weight of the bigger cars, then to say you have them set to low is a complete crock of shit, I would be going to fair trading (if given this BS advise) and request that I paid this $XX to meet this spec, So now you make it like you agreed, if that means meeting the terms I paid for with another brand then so be it, your loss, not mine.

But, pedders is shit...I have always known this? Or have I always just been a brand snob? Looks like for a good reason,



Some of the best names in suspension right there to go up against the awesomeness of the Pedders brand, Those "branded" springs would make any shock feel like shit!

Interesting comment... From what I understand of it, you are telling us that Pedders is shit, King springs and Monroe are shit, and seeing SS317 couldn't tell the difference between any of that even when directly comparing it to the Koni/Bilsteins, then everything must be shit...

If nothing is good, we may as well go back to stock FE2/3...

[Xjas]

Can I ask the question, why put coilovers on in the first place?

They were in my car when I bought it, and to give credit where credits due I have had none of the axle tramp issues that seem to be common with VEs so they do have some positives.

[Xjas]

Welcome to some of the best roads in NSW! lol...The stretches you travelled on are some of the crappiest roads I have ever seen in all my travels, and I live localish so travel them very regularly!

But, what a crock of shit from Pedders, obviously they arent up to taking the weight of the bigger cars, then to say you have them set to low is a complete crock of shit, I would be going to fair trading (if given this BS advise) and request that I paid this $XX to meet this spec, So now you make it like you agreed, if that means meeting the terms I paid for with another brand then so be it, your loss, not mine.

The stretch from Barmedman to West Wyalong would have to be one of the worst pieces of sealed road in NSW and its been like that for as long as I remember.

[Timson]

OUt of curiosity, how low were the cars that the shocks failed?

Mine is like this and it's almost been two years - no signs of failing as yet...

On 20's:


On 19's:

Mine sits 10-15mm higher than that at the rear.

[Timson]

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Found a pic. It's not that low, so I don't think the failure is due to the ride height.

[calais190]

That height looks fantastic though! It must be the road quality. Why would both shocks go at the same time unless they hit similar bumps which killed them?