Commodore dead by end of 2016?

[Angeldust]

Is a run of the mill V8 Kingswood worth anything much? Look to history to establish if a dead model holds any value.

only 180 V8 holdens from 1967-1980 on carsales at the moment. A couple of cheapies, but you would really need ~10K for a decent one.

http://www.carsales.com.au/car/brand...80&sort=~Price

VB SL/E 5.0 the cheapsest on there is 17K.....


not completely worthless, and quite desireable.

[bouka]

The info I have been privy to is that VF is all done, and there is nothing special from HSV (same engines etc as VE). When I asked about the 5.5L supercharged engine I was told no. Can't say much more than that, that's all I've found out.

Their is something special from HSV. Both in terms of engine (gts) and features and gadgets. 5.5 doesn't exist. VF was done a while ago.

[Hos]

Sorry Bouka, I misread your earlier post. Regarding HSV, I was led to believe that drivetrain wise there was little difference, and features would upgrade as you'd expect. My source is not at liberty to disclose much info, but I gather they know a lot.

What do you know of the VF commodore and F series HSV's???

[bouka]

Sorry Bouka, I misread your earlier post. Regarding HSV, I was led to believe that drivetrain wise there was little difference, and features would upgrade as you'd expect. My source is not at liberty to disclose much info, but I gather they know a lot.

What do you know of the VF commodore and F series HSV's???

Nothing, just guessing!

Another guess, you are right and wrong about drivetrain. I guess there will be some cool new features. More euro bits and pieces. I would wreckon styling not as crappy as e2/3.

And if you like forced induction.............

[Ausmartin1]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226555410358

Check out the Graph, Dam those figures aren't good.

I'm totally surprised Ford Australia even bother to turn the lights on in the morning in the Assembly plant for that production amount, even with the Territory
US chiefs must be cleaning the barrels and polishing the bullets.
Sad state of affairs for the home grown cars.

[CLUBRED]

GoAuto understands that production line changes for the new VF Commodore and derivatives such as the Statesman and Ute are scheduled to be completed during a shutdown around Easter, which falls at the end of March this year.

Statesmans?

[W427GOT1]

sad to see the 'commodore' die, it has had its day, new age in automotive industry.
its mostly about what the consumer wants (cheap and throw away cars)......but ADR are limiting options as well
and with the Green energy research ,companies need a lot of money to do this research, with car sales down they cant research 10 years ahead
Green energy has a long way to go to make car afordable to every 1
as green energy comes in expensive the market will change and compounded with the GFC

so second hand cars may well be a big market or the cheap small cars (if the small cheap car makers can supply them)

limited model cars, as always will take a while to go up in valve as it will be mostly the next generation that will want to buy them.
the next generation the 20 year old cars they will want
as they where unrearchable to purchase when they have just started thier working lives....

just my throughts......history repeats it self just technology changes

[mickeyVX350]

I'm sad to see the demise of any local manufacturing, automotive leads to ancillary companies, then design and engineering...

Really though, we have ourselves to blame, environment aside, we price ourselves out of the market at all levels on labour (I mean, a production line worker wants 80-100K!!!). We then turn around with such ferocity in our middle-class snobbery that we rubbish our own product (I'n not talking here, but we are enthusiasts. Ask an average Joe what they think of Aus cars). If you don't believe me, look at the "beer" thread where everyone rubbishes Aus beer and goes for imports and boutique beers. The same is happening with cars. Australian is "bogan", but really, bogans are driving imports and drinking Heineken now.

I for one support Australian, my cars, and my beer! I'm proud to park my Holden in the carpark with my workmate's SAABs, Renault, Peugots, BMW and Mercs...

As for collectable, they probably wont be, but remember, spikes in value occur when people who idolised a car, but couldn't afford it when they were young finally have the means to purchase one. So these 19-25 year olds that want a GenIII, VE, HSV will buy one in 10-15 years, some guys will wait longer for a mint example. Think VL Turbo, SLE, Torana GTR, Older Monaros, GTHO, and now, Valiant Chargers... All lead by 30-50 something middle class people with some money, no kids and thinning hair!

[planetdavo]

Commodore is NOT ending at the end of 2016.
Anyone that reckons that's "the truth" has heard a rumour from a friend of a friend of a mate's sister at the pub who heard it at the footy from someone's brother's mate, and took it as gospel.

[bouka]

Commodore is NOT ending at the end of 2016.
Anyone that reckons that's "the truth" has heard a rumour from a friend of a friend of a mate's sister at the pub who heard it at the footy from someone's brother's mate, and took it as gospel.

I agree, it's not ending at the end of 2016.

And your information comes from where dave?

[Jag530G]

PD, fair enough, the article I linked to is the only source I have found that mentioned 2016 for the end of Commodore. Pretty much everything else I've come across mentions 2018. I'm actually more curious about the possibility of continuing with the Ute and Caprice, have you heard anything about that?

Cheers, Matthew

[IJ.]

"As predicted by the Mayans"...

[bouka]

"As predicted by the Mayans"...

And really hoping to be just as incorrect!

From where I sit, none of the guessing is done with any sort of joy. In fact very much the opposite. As a loyal and frequent supporter of Aussie made performance cars, this sort of talk is truly heartbreaking.

It would be the same for many of us.

[Jag530G]

And really hoping to be just as incorrect!

From where I sit, none of the guessing is done with any sort of joy. In fact very much the opposite. As a loyal and frequent supporter of Aussie made performance cars, this sort of talk is truly heartbreaking.

It would be the same for many of us.

Too true... A part of Australian motoring culture is going, going... Give it 25 years and V8 sedans will be like the hot rodding today, A reall small subculture of motoring.

[mjrandom]

I think the end of main stream large cars is inevitable. Sad but inevitable. As others have said that doesn't mean the end of HSV or the demise of the performance car. M3, C63 and a plethora of hot hatches. Lets hope GM loosens the reins on HSV and they deliver. TTV6 "Torana" anyone?