VF SS and SSV to have 6.2ltr

[Plenty]

337 at the crank is not the same as the 335 puting out 315-330 ATW, HSV need to get it smoking with 380 at the crank, whats a 317 put out 250-260 ATW???

Who really cares the FPV does? HSV outsell FPV nearly 3:1

[macca_779]

Who really cares the FPV does? HSV outsell FPV nearly 3:1

And Toyota sells shit tin more camry's than holden sells commodores. Doesn't mean its the better car.

[team illucid]

Case in point, mate with GT-P bought Audi A5 coz his woman thought Ford was too bogan. And she has a point. But bogans buy cars, why not embrace that and make a car they want rather than have them thinking they can drive one that's 6 years old and lightly modified for better performance? The latest should be the greatest.

JJW

lol - this bogan bought an Audi.

Just as many bogans in nice German cars as there are in Fords/Commodores.

[JJW501]

lol - this bogan bought an Audi.

Just as many bogans in nice German cars as there are in Fords/Commodores.

That's my point. FPV/HSV pricing themselves out of the market. If you are going to spend that money why buy a taxi?

JJW

[Troutman]

In Europe, German cars are taxis and Holdens are exotic cars on the rare occasion they are spotted. Just a shame Australia is the only country that doesn't appreciate the Australian industry.

[Plenty]

And Toyota sells shit tin more camry's than holden sells commodores. Doesn't mean its the better car.

You sure about those figures Macca? Anyway without starting the same old argument again, Straight line grunt aside the HSV in this case is the better car; it stops better, it handles better, it is a helluva lot more ergonomic and comfortable to drive. Lets face it event the WOW in your face R-Spec got spanked by a 2 ton Chrysler around the track. Opinions are divided i know, FPV closed the gap for sure with the Coyote but it takes more than a nice set of tits to make it a real woman.... IMO, i have the pleasure and i do mean it of actually owning both and while i love the FPV for work everyday i still grab the lions keys on the weekends!

[Plenty]

In Europe, German cars are taxis and Holdens are exotic cars on the rare occasion they are spotted. Just a shame Australia is the only country that doesn't appreciate the Australian industry.

I have never actually seen one but when they say they are Mercedes, are they not a poverty pack, stripped out car designed just for taxi cab use? I don't think they are your standard issue, straight from the showroom Merc.

[cashie]

I have never actually seen one but when they say they are Mercedes, are they not a poverty pack, stripped out car designed just for taxi cab use? I don't think they are your standard issue, straight from the showroom Merc.

The ones I've ridden in were fully specced off the showroom floor.

[Plenty]

The ones I've ridden in were fully specced off the showroom floor.

yep ok, i wouldn't know any better

i'm sure i read somewhere a while ago though that they made a specific "taxi" model for cost effectiveness etc.

[cashie]

yep ok, i wouldn't know any better

i'm sure i read somewhere a while ago though that they made a specific "taxi" model for cost effectiveness etc.

Some markets may have a "taxi" model... but the many I've been in throughout Europe all looked to me to be full models.

[timy]

You sure about those figures Macca? Anyway without starting the same old argument again, Straight line grunt aside the HSV in this case is the better car; it stops better, it handles better, it is a helluva lot more ergonomic and comfortable to drive. Lets face it event the WOW in your face R-Spec got spanked by a 2 ton Chrysler around the track. Opinions are divided i know, FPV closed the gap for sure with the Coyote but it takes more than a nice set of tits to make it a real woman.... IMO, i have the pleasure and i do mean it of actually owning both and while i love the FPV for work everyday i still grab the lions keys on the weekends!

I like tits...

[FFAMan]

That's my point. FPV/HSV pricing themselves out of the market. If you are going to spend that money why buy a taxi?

JJW

Huh??? What large German sedan can be bought with 300+ KW and sub 5 second 0-100 for under 80K???

HSV/FPV products are more affordable now than they were 10 years ago.

[Plenty]

I like tits...

Yeah me too.....

[VYSHSV8]

Some markets may have a "taxi" model... but the many I've been in throughout Europe all looked to me to be full models.

It's no different in Sweden years ago when we used to get a taxi and a Volvo turns up we used to just call them the Swedish Torana

[tunga]

Huh??? What large German sedan can be bought with 300+ KW and sub 5 second 0-100 for under 80K???

HSV/FPV products are more affordable now than they were 10 years ago.

Just recently I test drove a new c63 coupe, and maybe I was expecting too much but I was left disappointed ,perhaps the refinement hid the feeling of real performance but It didn't have the grunt I expected,other than for the snob value there is no way I would pay the difference between it and a new HSV,it really amazes me when folks knock our local cars , they deserve much better