For me the Senator is the pick of this lineup, although I'm pleasantly surprised by how good the R8 and GTS look. Base Clubby is a bit disappointing with ugly wheels and SS seats.
On the whole though, much as it surprises me to say this, I think HSV has done a very good job.
2007 VE SS M6 - Ignition
2013 JH Cruze SRi M6 - Redhot
1971 VW Super Beetle - Moss Green
Just looking at the prices - $25k more over an SS is a big ask for the base Clubby.
2007 VE SS M6 - Ignition
2013 JH Cruze SRi M6 - Redhot
1971 VW Super Beetle - Moss Green
Big brakes on the GTS....
The brakes themselves have been uprated and now measure 390mm at the front and 372mm at the rear. Bright yellow six-piston aluminium calipers grip the discs at all four corners, and don’t add extra weight despite their larger size.
Lovin the Senator wheels too![]()
Last edited by jaykay; 15-05-2013 at 11:29 AM.
My thoughts too, the interior and the 2008 vintage LS3 might not make it worth it. We'll see.
Maybe when the LT1 is online the equation will make sense?
Looks like front tyre size is now 255 but would have been good to have seen rear increase to 295, especially for big HP GTS.
Usually I don't like big wings but they have done an excellent job with the GTS wing. Really suits it!
Last edited by Vulture; 15-05-2013 at 11:41 AM.
Everything in moderation, including moderation.
GTS gets a 9.9" diff.....in 2013 that is 9" + GST![]()
Agree its great to see. Not since the vt2 has there been such a large evolution to the product. The fact that its priced so well should guarantee success. I know its certainly the stand out model in my eyes and I would certainly have one over any other car in the price bracket.
Shame the wagon didn't get the same quad exhaust tips as the ute and sedan.
looking at the video that jkgmh posted, the rear looks a bit Camaro-ish
car looks better in the video
I think the white Clubsport R8 looks good in the pic.
Also think the GTS looks really good in videos but should've been made to look "tougher" compared to the R8 and left the "refined/subdued" look for senator.
Can't wait to see them on the road though![]()
That is the same reasoning used by people who say a car doesn’t need any additional power that would enable it to exceed the speed limit.
I don’t care how high or low the speedo reads, it’s not that important to me. It was just an observation from the photos as most serious high performance cars have high reading speedos.
The C63 like most performance cars these days is also limited to 250km/h in stock form, yet its speedo reads to 320km/h.
Switch off its limiter and it has been proven many times, the stock C63 can reach 318 km/h. Even more with a tune.
My 1 series BMW is limited at 250k and reads to 280km/h.
My 1971 XY Ford has a speedo that reads to 140 miles/h, I’m too frightened to find out if it can do it.
My Series 1 VE HSV reads to 180km/h.
The S2 HSV’s onwards have gone to a 260 reading like my VE SS Ute.
As I said, it’s usual for performance cars to have speedos that read high speeds whether they ever reach it or not.
Surely the real reason can’t be that it’s cheaper to produce a less calibrated gauge? I don’t think so.
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Less speed increments = more accurate reading as you're not cramming in more numbers on the dial. Who uses the analogue display anyways?
HSV are losing the plot. Each series since the E1 they seem to make them look more 'tacky / bolt on' like 'how can we stick on another bit to make it look cooler?'
Why on earth are the bootlid badges so damn massive? And what happened to timeless, classy wheels on performance cars? This 3-spoke look is crap and is going to age terribly, I have no idea why HSV keep persisting with it.
Sometimes less is more, especially in terms of styling, HSV just seem to keep adding and adding.
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