Toyota to stop manufacturing in 2017

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Answers you seek? Its all here folks...

http://onfourwheels.blogspot.com.au/...utomotive.html

[matthewfnorbert]

And then there were none...
I seem to remember a common quote from the past that said "greed is good".
Well, this is what happens when people only focus on what's in it FOR THEMSELVES. Eventually, it will go wrong. Maybe not for yourself, but your friends and your kids might be in trouble.
As long as this country is expensive enough for people to BRAG about earning stupid money for doing up a bolt, or doing a few spot welds, or holding up a sign on a road, or whatever, we will never, ever learn from this last year (over last few years really)...

nicely put!

[Micks]

last time i heard ford, GM and toyota are far from broke. ford and GM paying back massive loans since the GFC. We were spending far too much money subsidising these companies, good money after bad

if these companies were not union strongholds the lefty bleeding heart Labor commies would not even bat an eyelid at them. just as they did to tens of thousands of jobs lost whilst they were in power that they did not assist.

"for business" does not mean giving tax payers money away to wealthy companies with working conditions the majority can only dream of. if you got leaky pipes in business you shut it off.. thats whats happening! its called business!

Know well they ain't broke, would like to know how the workers are overpaid? I have worked in both public & private jobs for a thirty year period & never witnessed one excessively/overpaid metal worker! I found the non unionist people were paid exactly the same!
As Davo said it doesn't affect me so who gives a f**k exactly why these job losses will be eminent maybe not now but soon!!
We won't be spending far too much money subsidizing these companies, good money after bad though there will be a huge hit to Social Security system!!

[VYBerlinaV8]

Shoulda taxed the shite outta the imports and used that to subsidise the local made cars and materials. Our market is just that fragmented now it makes no sense to build them here without the volume of sales.

That's how things used to be until Hawke/Keating changed the rules.

Why did they change the rules? Because our cars were uncompetitive on a world stage, and uncompetitive industries don't lead to having a productive workforce. Look how good our cars are now compared to other counties' cars.

When every local manufacturer shuts up shop you have to look at why. In this country, people simply get paid too much for us to compete in this area. Fortunately none of these companies are our biggest manufacturer. Also, the commercial media loves these stories. Do peoplel realise that over the past few years the IT industry in Australia has lost WAY more jobs that all our local car manufacturers combined? The Australian economy is changing, as it always has, and as individuals it is far better to look to the future and seek out and act on opportunity than mourn the ways things used to be.

[VYBerlinaV8]

Know well they ain't broke, would like to know how the workers are overpaid?

What do equivalent workers earn in the US? What about in Europe? What about in Asia?

[Micks]

Some earn more! though very relative to the cost of living city to city. Other problem in our industry being overlooked is trained/qualified
people not working in there trade opting to work elsewhere, causing a shortage of quality workers.

[matthewfnorbert]

I found the non unionist people were paid exactly the same!

thats great news! we can abolish the unions overnight and all the union subscribers will now have more money in their pockets thanks to no contributions..

[Micks]

thats great news! we can abolish the unions overnight and all the union subscribers will now have more money in their pockets thanks to no contributions..

Don't like unions! what about professional associations too?

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thats great news! we can abolish the unions overnight and all the union subscribers will now have more money in their pockets thanks to no contributions..

Who would pay for hookers and porn?

[VYBerlinaV8]

Some earn more!

Not many, mate, not many at all.

[Micks]

thats great news! we can abolish the unions overnight and all the union subscribers will now have more money in their pockets thanks to no contributions..

Like believing in faires too as if your fully imported Toyota, Ford or GM equivalent is ridiculously less than what were paying now!!

[Micks]

Who would pay for hookers and porn?

You ya taxpayer you!!

[Micks]

Don't like unions! what about professional associations too?

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[matthewfnorbert]

i just call it as i see it

[VYBerlinaV8]

Like believing in faires too as if your fully imported Toyota, Ford or GM equivalent is ridiculously less than what were paying now!!

Sellers of nearly anything will charge what the market will bear. If someone in Australia is silly enought to pay $260k for a Porsche that can be bought for $90k in the US, or $90k for a large ute that can be bought for $30k in the US, why wouldn't they sell it for that?