Advice needed, not sure if dodgy dyno or my stupidity

[white lie]

Yeah, it'll be 4 credits.

[pwr346]

that blows.

[bush_basha]

Sorry to hijack but have a question about the credits aswell, if I have a tune by a tuner which have obviously used there credits, I then fiddle with my Hp tuners, will it then cost me my credits and say I go back to original tuner for another touch up will it then cost them credits again?

[white lie]

You should only get charged once. So the tuner will pay, then if you want to modify it, you'd have to pay. But when it goes back to the tuner, he will still have a licence for that pcm.

[pwr346]

Im looking at pcm's, will any auto one do? Or does it need to be VY specific?

[white lie]

I thought any VT-VY would do, they're not auto/manual specific

[IJ.]

Bush: Just do a compare between the files then transfer the new Data into a copy of your own licenced file, really easy with HPT.

[pwr346]

Hey lads,
Well this procharger setup ive had since September last year is starting to do my head in. The car runs hot, has got to 3/4 mark on the temp gauge a few times, fans never cycle off, found hoses with no clamps, found a half kinked trans cooler line to my new $5000 tranny, fuel filter mounted wrong way and inaccessible( he did fix this), because procharger sent the wrong regulator, and he couldnt source a new one in time, he ended up getting a second hand fast regulator instead. I bit my tongue with most of this.

The latest thing i have found is the supplied radiator shroud is the wrong size leaving a 20mm gap along the bottom and the tabs to hold it in place actually hit the radiator stopping it from fully sealing. Now im pretty much lookin at getting a custom shroud.

I hadn't said anything to my mechanic about the hot issues thinking it was another issue at hand, but i did bring up the others and he did apolgise, stating he was a bit behind the 8 ball with my car.

Now i've sent my tuner/mechanic what i have found in pics. Still no response. I know warranty and responsibility have to stop somewhere. With all the problems i've had, would you just cut him and start fresh with another mechanic/tuner. My way of thinkin is, if thats his quality of his work, how good is his tune? Then on the other hand im up for another $1000 for a tune, which is gonna take some time to come across. Rock/ME/Hard place.

[whitels1ss]

Hey lads,
Well this procharger setup ive had since September last year is starting to do my head in. The car runs hot, has got to 3/4 mark on the temp gauge a few times, fans never cycle off, found hoses with no clamps, found a half kinked trans cooler line to my new $5000 tranny, fuel filter mounted wrong way and inaccessible( he did fix this), because procharger sent the wrong regulator, and he couldnt source a new one in time, he ended up getting a second hand fast regulator instead. I bit my tongue with most of this.

The latest thing i have found is the supplied radiator shroud is the wrong size leaving a 20mm gap along the bottom and the tabs to hold it in place actually hit the radiator stopping it from fully sealing. Now im pretty much lookin at getting a custom shroud.

I hadn't said anything to my mechanic about the hot issues thinking it was another issue at hand, but i did bring up the others and he did apolgise, stating he was a bit behind the 8 ball with my car.

Now i've sent my tuner/mechanic what i have found in pics. Still no response. I know warranty and responsibility have to stop somewhere. With all the problems i've had, would you just cut him and start fresh with another mechanic/tuner. My way of thinkin is, if thats his quality of his work, how good is his tune? Then on the other hand im up for another $1000 for a tune, which is gonna take some time to come across. Rock/ME/Hard place.

First of all stop starting new threads on the same thing!
I have just merged this into your other thread.
I have done it before with a few of your old/new threads on the same things.

People will ask heaps of questions about your entire setup & if it is just all left in one continued thread
it will be much easier for anyone to read back through to help you.
This is to help you & all the other members who might want to help you instead of wasting everyone's time.

[pwr346]

sorry, keep forgetting to go back. pains me to read lol.

[whitels1ss]

Anyway, I think you should first of all cut your losses & find another tuner.
It is so obvious that you are not happy with & don't trust the place you have been using.
Do a search & you will find.
There are a few around your neck of the woods.
One more thing, don't worry if one charges a bit more than another, it is about the quality of their work, not the cheapest tuner.
There are plenty of tuners who I would not let near a car of mine even if they were giving their tunes away free.
There is even one big name tuner close to me who I would not let near my car if he was paying me to tune it.

[mechatron]

I'm with whitels1ss (and like I wrote before) cut your losses and move onto a better tuner. This is obviously more than your current tuner can handle. It's like he's using your car to practice on to learn. Tuners are like personal trainers....they're absolutely everywhere but there's only a small handful that actually know what they're doing

[pwr346]

Not his first procharger install, must just be a dodgy so and so.

Finding it hard trust any performance shop ATM. I've heard really good things about efi performance on the gc.
Friend of mine has a 700hp cammed stock bottom end 2j, Swares by them, but my apprentice went there for an e85 conversion and got stuffed around.
Is it luck of the draw on how they are that day?

[mechatron]

You need to chat to the guys at Power Torque

[feistl]

Hey,

I know this doesn't help but it might make you feel a little better, I used a "reputable" tuner here in Victoria and long story short, it took them 12 months to build, then rebuild (After they ****ed the first one up) and tune my LSX motor. It ended up costing me around $6000 in broken parts/labor and so much stress/waiting that i eventually cut my losses and went to APS instead. It did cost me another $1500* or so (From memory) for a proper tune but i went from having a undriveable car to the engine running nicely within 5 days with the new tuner/APS.

It might hurt now thinking about having to fork out that much money, but honestly cut your losses now as you'll never trust this guys work and it'll cause more pain/suffering in the long run.

*For the record, $1500 for a full tune is exceptional value considering it was a LSX with a 2300 which took ages on the dyno to get right. Ironically i did approach APS initially to do the build but after several weeks waiting for a quote (Which never arrived) i went with another workshop on a recommendation from a friend.